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daryn
12-30-2005, 03:29 PM
how do you extract the most in this hand? i think the question is on the turn but i guess there are other flop options

Ultimate Bet 80/160 Hold'em (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif
DpR
12-30-2005, 04:07 PM
Check raise the turn. It is certainly risky since a free card stinks, but with the 9 pairing I think villian is betting this turn almost every time.
12-30-2005, 05:08 PM
I would actually Bet/call this turn. Once the nine hits, your hand is not strong enough to checkraise IMO becuz of the time times you get 3 bet by 9x, a hand the villain can easily have given the preflop/flop action. Plus it is possible, but I'll admit rare, that the CO will check behind if he has a hand like JT, Two spades, or a hand like KK that he intended to trap you with by just calling preflop. I realize that most people would not take a free card in this situation but nonetheless it is a factor that leans me towards bet/calling this turn.

Also, I wouldve 3 bet the flop in this situation just becuz there are so many turn cards that may lead me to cancel my turn checkraise strategy.
etizzle
12-30-2005, 05:13 PM
IMO you are giving up youre turn c/r way too often. THe guy probably has an ace.
12-30-2005, 05:22 PM
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IMO you are giving up youre turn c/r way too often. THe guy probably has an ace.

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You may be right, on this board, I might be giving up on checkraising the turn too often, which is why I would 3 bet the flop and lead the turn. As long as I get extra money in on one street I am satisfied with the results.

It is possible though that I may be 3betting the flop/leading the turn too much in relation to calling the flop raise and checkraising the turn. But I am Ok with this leak. When im OOP, I will usually play my hands faster than normal.