I am new to NL, KQ hand vs lag

[imported_CaseClosed326]

The villian is a lag, but I play mostly limit so...I am not sure if I did this right.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Button ($96)
Hero ($169.45)
BB ($125.70)
UTG ($76.22)
MP ($56.20)
CO ($86.79)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero (poster) completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $3</font>, UTG calls $3, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($12) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $12</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($36) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $18</font>, Hero calls $18.

River: ($72) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $40</font>, Hero calls $40.

Final Pot: $152

[unlucky513]

he's got you crushed or he's got air... i fold the river and give him credit for a big hand

[poboy]

At some point you need to raise, c/c is not a very good strategy. Given the texture of this board I would prefer to raise the flop. JMO

[poboy]

This makes no sense at all. If you're ahead on the turn you're still ahead on the river. If you're not ahead on the turn why are you calling? OP said villian is LAG so how do you come to the conclusion that you're crushed?

I agree, I don't particularly like the C/C in this situation for the reasons stated. If you are calling on the turn you believe you are ahead so why check/call the river as well.

[stu-unger]

i like c/c flop lead turn, or c/r on the flop...

[imported_CaseClosed326]

Ok, some different lines for me to take. I just thought that he has been betting with a lot of garbage why not let him continue. I probably play is a little too passivly at times.

[RiverFenix]

I like new people at NL that sit at .5/1. Your line is fine the whole way through if he is LAG. You dont need to raise since hes probably going to come over the top

[unlucky513]

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This makes no sense at all. If you're ahead on the turn you're still ahead on the river. If you're not ahead on the turn why are you calling? OP said villian is LAG so how do you come to the conclusion that you're crushed?

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what hand do you put villain on?

do you really call off your chips with TPGK after he's fired preflop, flop, turn and river?

as played, you have to fold the river.

[imported_CaseClosed326]

Ok. So should I assume that there is no one perfect line for NLH? It's more of a game that you learn from just playing a ton?

[poboy]

I can think of many hands that a LAG would play in this fashion and very few of them are ahead of hero. Yes against this type of player TP2K is worth all my chips. I've noticed a theme in your posts of always fearing better hands, you really need to get over this if you're going to play NL. JMO

[unlucky513]

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Ok. So should I assume that there is no one perfect line for NLH? It's more of a game that you learn from just playing a ton?

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bingo

[RiverFenix]

There are perfect lines when you have better information, but you dont here. Without the best of reads its a game of heuristics (especially if multitabling) where you need to be able to exploit general playing tendencies and you will develop these quasi-perfect lines from playing a lot and reading/thinking about the game.

[imported_CaseClosed326]

I don't think it's that I am scared. I just don't have a good feel for this game right now. It's getting better pretty fast.

[poboy]

That comment wasn't directed at you.

[imported_CaseClosed326]

oh ok, sorry

Against certain lags I like your whole line

For instance, if he's the type of lag who always bets if checked to, but will not call or raise a bet without a good hand, then it makes perfect sense to check/call down

Although the read 'villian is a lag' is not enough of a read for me to choose a line here. I might instead lead turn, or fold river depending on exactly what kind of lag villian is

Calling down a LAG who you believe is bluffing and that you have the best hand, is fine. Let them bet, and keep calling. If you think villian had JQ and was drawing to a straight then this was a terrible line, as you need to bet enough to make it a mistake for him to continue drawing.

[ThaHero]

A lag could also put him on a flush draw and be charging with something like QQ or JJ or even KJ and expecting you to fold that river when no diamond hits. Only reason to call down here is to let a worse hand bet, which is what I hope happened. Obviously if you called the turn you're calling the river.