Another AA hand **yawn**

[Scuba Chuck]

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com (http://www.pregopoker.com/hhconv/convert)

UTG (t820)
UTG+1 (t1395)
MP1 (t825) <font color="white"> Qc 8c </font>
MP2 (t1095)
MP3 (t420)
CO (t1045)
Hero (t730)
SB (t685)
BB (t985)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, MP1 calls t30, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises t100</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, MP1 calls t70

Flop: (t90) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
MP1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t125</font>, MP1 calls t125

Turn: (t90) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
MP1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t125</font>, MP1 calls t125

River: (t90) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

I don't know if I like my check on the end here. Do you think this is best often enough? I certainly like a check OOP.

PS - Perg, thanks for writing a new converter, it's such a time saver. For some reason on this HH, it said the BB was t60??

[ZeroPointMachine]

I would never bet this river.

Can you explain the bet on the turn? The pot is 480 and you bet 125?

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PS - Perg, thanks for writing a new converter, it's such a time saver. For some reason on this HH, it said the BB was t60??

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Also, the pot size is t90 on every street, which is incorrect.

[Scuba Chuck]

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Can you explain the bet on the turn? The pot is 480 and you bet 125?

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Many reasons. I think that amount is just right considering the circumstances.

[SuitedSixes]

Just wondering, why the t100 raise pf?

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Flop: (t90)

Turn: (t90)

River: (t90)

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Those pot sizes aren't right.

[jmillerdls]

Yeah, I raise more than this even without a limper in front of me....?

[Scuba Chuck]

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Just wondering, why the t100 raise pf?

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Are you asking why I don't raise more? Otherwise, I don't know what you're getting at. And if so, what do you recommend and why?

[Pasterbator]

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Just wondering, why the t100 raise pf?

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Are you asking why I don't raise more? Otherwise, I don't know what you're getting at. And if so, what do you recommend and why?

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I'm making this 100 PF too. Making it 120 or so preflop is unnecessary. At the $33s, it will fold around too often. You want action with this hand, so i don't see a problem with it.

[SuitedSixes]

I would have raised more. With a limper and 30BB, I would have made it at least 150. I would have raised more with AK as well. I would have made it 120.

Just wondering what your rationale for (what seems to me like) a low raise.

I really like to thin the field and make one player pay to catch up, not give two or three odds to call/chase.

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Many reasons. I think that amount is just right considering the circumstances.

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What hand range do you put the villian on after the flop call?

[zipppy]

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Can you explain the bet on the turn? The pot is 480 and you bet 125?

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Many reasons. I think that amount is just right considering the circumstances.

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scuba...what are your reasons? why do you feel that amount is just right?

&gt;zip

[SuitedSixes]

I like the turn bet (we don't agree on amounts but that isn't the issue). You needed one to see where you stood unless you were planning to fold to a decent-sized bet on the river. I think that the river check probably saved you some chips as you are hoping for AK (which is unlikely with you holding AA). Villain played the hand like a typical KQ KJ hoping to check/raise you on the river.

[Scuba Chuck]

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Villain played the hand like a typical KQ KJ hoping to check/raise you on the river.

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Whoala! That's the question. Will villain risk a c/r on the river vs betting for value?

[yvesaint]

this is a really, really easy turn bet / river check, unless you have specifically noted him as being very loose/passive

[Scuba Chuck]

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Can you explain the bet on the turn? The pot is 480 and you bet 125?

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Many reasons. I think that amount is just right considering the circumstances.

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scuba...what are your reasons? why do you feel that amount is just right?

&gt;zip

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How will you react to a turn c/r min raise?
How will you react to a turn c/r allin?

[ZeroPointMachine]

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Villain played the hand like a typical KQ KJ hoping to check/raise you on the river.

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Whoala! That's the question. Will villain risk a c/r on the river vs betting for value?

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IMO he will do that much more often than he will call a river bet with anything you beat.

Don't forget the AT as well. Some players get really greedy when they flop the nuts.

[bones]

I probably check the turn and call or make a modest river bet.

[zipppy]

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Can you explain the bet on the turn? The pot is 480 and you bet 125?

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Many reasons. I think that amount is just right considering the circumstances.

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scuba...what are your reasons? why do you feel that amount is just right?

&gt;zip

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How will you react to a turn c/r min raise?
How will you react to a turn c/r allin?

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I'm tired from work. maybe I'll think about this later and your questions will make sense, but I was hoping you'd explain your line.

When you answer a question with a question it's hard to tell if you're repeating what went through your mind, or if you're trying to provoke more thought from other posters. (or both /images/graemlins/shocked.gif) It's not a bad thing, I'm just too tired to figure out why you asked more questions in this instance. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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I'd really bet more on the flop and turn. You'll get usually nice action with that board even with ~pot-sized bet.

And I think aces are the best hand here often enough to bet on river. This was a $33? It's really rare to see someone slowplay a hand that beats you all the way till river, and the villain limped too so it's more unlikely he has you beat on flop. OOP I check too though.

[jeffraider]

I like preflop and flop, I'd bet 250 on the turn but I see why you bet 125 and don't really hate it, and I think the river is great!

I think bones's line is g00t as well, actually, and I've played it like this before as well.

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I'd really bet more on the flop and turn. You'll get usually nice action with that board even with ~pot-sized bet.


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Do we want action on this board?

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And I think aces are the best hand here often enough to bet on river. This was a $33? It's really rare to see someone slowplay a hand that beats you all the way till river, and the villain limped too so it's more unlikely he has you beat on flop. OOP I check too though.

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I agree its rare to see someone slowplay all the way to the river here with a better hand, but if we bet on the river what does he call with that we beat? K10?

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Do we want action on this board?


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Well yeah, lots of scary cards to come. But lot's of hands are paying here more than t125 (like any hand with ten in it) and I don't mind getting paid more.

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I agree its rare to see someone slowplay all the way to the river here with a better hand, but if we bet on the river what does he call with that we beat? K10?

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That's true, not much calls with a hand that we got beat. KT for sure and some other Kx, maybe Qx too. Still I think it's worth a shot to value bet.

[Scuba Chuck]

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That's true, not much calls with a hand that we got beat. KT for sure and some other Kx, maybe Qx too. Still I think it's worth a shot to value bet.

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What do you do when you're reraised?

Anyway, I would think at this stage, by the weak betting I've made, a better hand would likely have c/r me on the turn. I was thinking I should value bet here, bah.

[Nick M]

This is the most interesting question that's been asked I think.

It's really weird because unless you know this, the turn weak bet will get HERO into trouble sometimes. If you put him on a pair and a draw you bet more, but when you bet small you're assuming villian is strong, so if you get check raised and you're right, you can fold. BUUUUTTTTT by betting small you're portraying weakness, so you could get check raised here and have to fold, which would suck when villian holds K10.

I'm calling if I bet with so little left. My hat off to villain if he has me beat, that would be just too weird line for me. Had he raised preflop I'd check the river after him.

[Scuba Chuck]

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I'm calling if I bet with so little left. My hat off to villain if he has me beat, that would be just too weird line for me. Had he raised preflop I'd check the river after him.

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LOL, that makes no sense.