Daniel Craig as the new James Bond.

[MelchyBeau]

http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news_img/1973/1973.jpg

He doesn't look like a Bond.

Melch

terrible choice IMO

The plot is about a poker tournament right? i can see it already. Q is giving out the gadgets:

Q: Please 007 bring back the Phil Hellmuth Oakley glasses and Million Dollar Hold 'Em Secrets DVD in one piece.

[Brain]

I know nothing about him and he doesn't look like a terrible Bond. I certainly think there could be worse picks so I'll rate this pick as a 6 for now.

He's a little goofy looking

[dblgutshot]

I think he is a great choice. IMO Pierce Brosnan was a terrible bond.

I think Craig will give Bond the mean streak he should have.

edit: This thread was already done a while ago when he was first chosen as Bond.

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/casinoroyale/pr/craig_bond.jpg

[Thythe]

Isn't this like welcome to 6 weeks ago?

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Isn't this like welcome to 6 weeks ago?

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12 weeks

[Cry Me A River]

Anyone who has not seen the movie "Layer Cake" shouldn't be posting in this thread. Rent it and look foreward to the best Bond movie in a while (That, or Hold'em really jumps the shark!)

[KDawgCometh]

Not only was he great in L4yer Cake, he does a great job in Munich too

[Ringo_Mojo]

The bond actors seem to go in cycles, from Bad ass Killer (Connery) to campy (Moore) back to Killer (dalton) and again back to campy (Bronson). Looks like the pendulum has shifted again. There's probably something to be said about the state of the world and popular culture at the time of each movie in that but i'm not going to take the time to analyze it.


For what its worth in my opinion Craig looks more like the Bond depicted in the books.

[asofel]

I just posted about L4yer Cake tonight, and I agree with the previous statements. At first I was annoyed with this selection of bond....but now I have to say I think he'll do a great job...

[Blarg]

I really enjoyed Layer Cake a lot, and it made me like Daniel Craig and think he would be cool to see in some more movies.

He could definitely pull off the mean streak Bond needs to pull him into the modern age and away from the type of worn out silliness that Roger Moore started. Espionage actually has lots of potential to be really gripping and scary and dirty, and we could use a some of that in the Bond series. I look forward to having a Bond again who when he says he's going to break your arm, you start sh*tting bricks.

Who knows if Craig will fulfill that or if they will try to keep things going along the same silly arc it's been in for the last 30 years. Well anyway, we can hope.

[captZEEbo1]

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IMO Pierce Brosnan was a terrible bond.

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[ononimo]

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Connery > Brosnan > Moore > Dalton > Lazenby

[andyfox]

Just saw him in Munich. He doesn't look too much younger than Brosnan.

[ClaytonN]

To me, there's something wrong with a Bond who's able to do the most insane [censored] with the little smirk on his face. I see no bad-ass or ruggedness at all w/ Brosnan, which made movies like the Bourne Identity make me stop watching Bond w/ Brosnan.

James Bond should be a bad motherfucka that could whoop your ass and do secret agent [censored] at the same time, not a preppy little british man who looks more fit for a wine tasting party than a spy mission.

[asofel]

well said Clatyon...after watching L4yer Cake, I think the new Bond will do just fine...

[kyro]

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Die. A horrible death.

[SmileyEH]

He's going to be awesome. No doubt in my mind.

-SmileyEH

[diebitter]

I reckon he'll do fine - I just hope they stick to a simple, slick story where he can think, fight, luv up the ladies, and show how damn clever and cool he is. If there's one word that defines Bond, even above cool, it's 'capable'. They got to show he's really, really capable of doing his thing.



I just hope they make him both brutal (like Connery shooting the unarmed guy stone dead in Dr No), a thinking man as well as an action man (like Connery in Goldfinger), able to be down and still work his way out (connery in From Russia with Love), and the coolest mofo alive (like Connery, full stop! /images/graemlins/smile.gif )


As for Brosnan, he could have been really, really awesome - remember how he looked at the beginning of 'Tomorrow Never Dies' in the plane yard with the missiles - very, very cool and doing the business - but scripts and stuff didn't work out. And I thought he was no.2 in the Bond pantheon behind Connery myself (Lazenby is 3rd!)

[kurosh]

what is with all the racist [censored]? if i were bond, i would be tough. bond isn't tough. he just get slucky. he's like a [censored] fish that never runs bad. i would be like, go ahead, [censored] shoot me. i don't cfare. the bullets would bounce off. then i would go rip out their throats with my teeth. how is that? how is that for a bond? who is tougher than that? [censored] you pierce brosnan. your good looks won't stop me from ripping your throat oput.

[samjjones]

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For what its worth in my opinion Craig looks more like the Bond depicted in the books.

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Your opinion is wrong, then, because Craig looks nothing like the Bond described by Fleming.

[samjjones]

I think Craig would do a great job, but as always, its going to come down to the script. Finding out that they are changing the setting from a bacarrat game vs. Le Chiffre to a Texas Hold'em tournament is a big red flag, for example. I'm fully expecting this film to suck.

[diebitter]

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For what its worth in my opinion Craig looks more like the Bond depicted in the books.

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Your opinion is wrong, then, because Craig looks nothing like the Bond described by Fleming.

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In the books, one of the women describes him like 'Hoagy Carmichael' but crueller, and with darker hair, or something like that.

Here's Hoagy:

http://www.hoagy.com/images/pics/early_headshot_sm.jpg

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For what its worth in my opinion Craig looks more like the Bond depicted in the books.

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Your opinion is wrong, then, because Craig looks nothing like the Bond described by Fleming.

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In the books, one of the women describes him like 'Hoagy Carmichael' but crueller, and with darker hair, or something like that.

Here's Hoagy:

http://www.hoagy.com/images/pics/early_headshot_sm.jpg

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Right. He certainly does not have red/blonde hair and blue eyes. He has jet black hair, a faint scar, and grey eyes.

[diebitter]

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I think Craig would do a great job, but as always, its going to come down to the script. Finding out that they are changing the setting from a bacarrat game vs. Le Chiffre to a Texas Hold'em tournament is a big red flag, for example. I'm fully expecting this film to suck.

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David Suchet (of Poirot) is in the frame from Le Chiffre (but he could be one of many).

He'd be a good Le Chiffre IMHO.

[Dominic]

I'm one of the few who actually thinks Timothy Dalton was a great Bond. Manly, suave,cool under fire but not a cartoon. He was unfortunately stuck with some of the worst Bond storylines ever.

IMO it's Connery>Dalton>Brosnan>Lazenby>Moore.

And Craig looks like a good addition.

[samjjones]

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I'm one of the few who actually thinks Timothy Dalton was a great Bond. Manly, suave,cool under fire but not a cartoon. He was unfortunately stuck with some of the worst Bond storylines ever.

IMO it's Connery>Dalton>Brosnan>Lazenby>Moore.

And Craig looks like a good addition.

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Ditto. You put Dalton in "From Russia With Love", and public opinion of him would increase tenfold.

[diebitter]

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I'm one of the few who actually thinks Timothy Dalton was a great Bond. Manly, suave,cool under fire but not a cartoon. He was unfortunately stuck with some of the worst Bond storylines ever.

IMO it's Connery>Dalton>Brosnan>Lazenby>Moore.

And Craig looks like a good addition.

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Ditto. You put Dalton in "From Russia With Love", and public opinion of him would increase tenfold.

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I agree with the opinion that Dalton could have been an awesome Bond too.

I think Dalton and Brosnan were both quite good, though I prefer Brosnan, and were let down by the ridiculously complex and comic-book plotting that really wasn't worth following. All the films of both of these are worth watching though.

What do people think is the worst Bond film? It'd have to be 'Diamonds Are Forever' (how could they blow a Connery/Vegas film and make it look a dull place, huh?), or maybe 'View to a Kill' for me. I think.

[samjjones]

One more quick note. I watched "Closer" the other day, and am not convinced that Clive Owen would've been a horrible Bond.

[mrkilla]

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What do people think is the worst Bond film? It'd have to be 'Diamonds Are Forever' (how could they blow a Connery/Vegas film and make it look a dull place, huh?), or maybe 'View to a Kill' for me. I think.

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The worst one was the Unoffical Bond film, Never Say never again, even if it did have Sean Conery in it.

But how you can all but Dalton before Moore I will never understand, Moore goes #2 and its not close. Moore had some stinker plots too but he pulled them out.

Its funny that there going to remake Casino Royale. I wonder how its gonig to hold up on Screen and how true to the book it will be. THe new Bonds are very "modern tech" Casino Royale will be Quasi Futuristic Tech

[samjjones]

If you've read the books, it would probably be more clear to you why some like Dalton more than Moore. Moore was the "jokey" Bond, and looked and acted absolutely nothing like his literary counterpart. Also, Moore was never convincing to me in his fight scenes. The Moore/John Glen films were marred by ludicrous plots and set pieces as well. In fact, the only Moore film which I really like is "The Spy Who Loved Me"...which coincidentally, is absolutely nothing like the book.

[mrkilla]

Whelp Movies and there counter books are rarely the same. It was the 70's I guess...
I'm not this huge Moore fan, I just think hes better then Dalton, theres only one Bond it will always be Connery

[Blarg]

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To me, there's something wrong with a Bond who's able to do the most insane [censored] with the little smirk on his face. I see no bad-ass or ruggedness at all w/ Brosnan, which made movies like the Bourne Identity make me stop watching Bond w/ Brosnan.

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Exactly. Brosnan is so spectacularly wimpy, with such startlingly narrow shoulders, that he's almost funny because of that before he even opens his mouth. As a badass, he's a total non-starter. I seriously think there's hardly anybody on OOT who couldn't kick his ass.

Bond needs to have some of that special forces aspect to him, that this is a guy who is seriously trained and has every intention of completing his mission come hell or high water, no matter who or what gets in the way. Smart, but unquestionably dangerous. A guy you really don't want to unload on you at all. A man you do not want to make mad.

Somebody whose morality you might even question or find a little cruel, if you forget that not only is he trying to do his job for his country and save lives, but that he believes in that job utterly, 100%, and is not about to be dissuaded by anything that gets thrown up in front of him. A little fanatical? Yeah. But definitely a part of his job, and a job that actually has no place at all for someone who isn't completely committed down to the soles of his shoes. An intelligent monster. An ape in a suit. The contrast is what makes him interesting.

Guys like Moore and Brosnan have no contrast. They're pussies. What you see is what you get.

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I'm one of the few who actually thinks Timothy Dalton was a great Bond. Manly, suave,cool under fire but not a cartoon. He was unfortunately stuck with some of the worst Bond storylines ever.

IMO it's Connery>Dalton>Brosnan>Lazenby>Moore.

And Craig looks like a good addition.

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Dalton brought back the threat and some needed macho into the role. But the whole concept of a "Bond for the age of AIDS" was a poor one, and he did get some sucky scripts.

[Blarg]

Diebitter -- Moonraker was my least favorite. Jaws, the whole thing was just so over the top cartoonish.

samjones -- Clive Owens looked like he could be a very good Bond to me. He had the knowing, sly cruelty in that gambling movie where he was the dealer, I forget the name. He could muster a hard but polished look. He could use some serious time in the gym to not look quite as much a jangly bunch of bones with his shirt off. He could have been quite good, I think. The last line of that gambling movie, and his look while it went on in monologue over his image, was prime Bond in what it got across: "I have the ability to make you lose."

[samjjones]

Owen looks like a great Bond until he opens his mouth. I think Craig will do a good job; as always, its up to the screenplay. FWIW, I think they should recast all of the major parts (new "M", new "Q", etc.), and for God's sake, please get Felix Leiter back into the mix.

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If you've read the books, it would probably be more clear to you why some like Dalton more than Moore. Moore was the "jokey" Bond, and looked and acted absolutely nothing like his literary counterpart. Also, Moore was never convincing to me in his fight scenes. The Moore/John Glen films were marred by ludicrous plots and set pieces as well. In fact, the only Moore film which I really like is "The Spy Who Loved Me"...which coincidentally, is absolutely nothing like the book.

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Agreed again. Spy Who Loved Me was surprisingly decent in parts, especially for a Moore movie.

Moore made Bond a ludicrous franchise, in my opinion. He was so physically unconvincing that his movies became more and more about more and more absurd gadgets and things like boat chases that stunt men could do and went on forever. The rest was fluffed out with as cartoony a bunch of business as could possibly be found, and Moore coming in to chortle at himself on top of it. The real spirit of the Bond stories and character was chucked out completely. It was a miserable degrading of the franchise. One thing you could count on was for Moore to be unexciting.

Moore's version of Bond was kind of like the 60's t.v. show's version of Batman. Except much less fun.

[bisonbison]

Craig was smart and menacing in Elizabeth, so I believe he can pull it off, but physically he has a much different look and presence than any of the previous Bonds, so it'll be interesting to see how it works.

Of course, most of it depends on the scripts. No Halle Berry/ice skating/stealth boats plz.

[Blarg]

He doesn't have the physical presence of Connery, but I think he could still have a considered threat to his presence, in a more Chris Walken but without the craziness way. He seems like a man who could be focused on his mission and give you the idea that he intends to complete it.