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toss
12-27-2005, 10:57 PM
Villain is unknown.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. CO posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls, CO folds.

Flop: (5 SB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB
W. Deranged
12-27-2005, 11:10 PM
Why raise the turn? It seems to me calling and just getting to showdown is much better, if we are planning on giving 2.5 BB worth of action at all.
toss
12-27-2005, 11:14 PM
I thought calling down was too weak. He may have a flush draw, pair, gutshot combo that I felt needed raising.
12-27-2005, 11:25 PM
was that turn raise a misclick? or is this whole post an outline on how to fold the turn vs unknown? /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

call/call/call and expect to lose was the plan from the flop right?
toss
12-27-2005, 11:53 PM
Why can't villain have KQ, KJ, JTs, QT ?
Redd
12-28-2005, 12:04 AM
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Why can't villain have KQ, KJ, JTs, QT ?

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Why give him a chance to fold them?
toss
12-28-2005, 12:09 AM
Is he really going to fold those HU?
Harv72b
12-28-2005, 12:30 AM
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Is he really going to fold those HU?

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You folded top pair HU. I don't see why another player wouldn't lay down less than that to a turn raise.

I tend to agree...if he's betting a worse hand, let him. Especially given that he's an unknown, I'd like to get to a showdown here and get the info if nothing else. This looks like a pretty textbook WA/WB situation to me, and the river is unlikely to change which one it is.
toss
12-28-2005, 12:31 AM
Eh fine I'll take the WA/WB line. I guess I don't need to be finding lines to fold TP HU.