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GtrHtr
12-27-2005, 06:05 PM
I vary my play in the early rounds with AK. From EP I will raise or call. On level 3 I don't call and with my stack, raising 3x isn't an option as far as I can tell unless I want to gambol and hope to hit the flop and double up.

Thoughts?

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com (http://www.pregopoker.com/hhconv/convert)

UTG (t2010)
Hero (t675)
MP1 (t1255)
CO (t1660)
Button (t1130)
SB (t755)
BB (t515)

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<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero t675 (All-in)

pergesu
12-27-2005, 07:30 PM
Yeah, I hear you. I'm probably the worst level 3 player on the face of the planet, cause I get raisable hands and don't know wtf to do. Think I might just start usin your ish and open shove. I would like to know how other people handle this kinda thing though.

11t
12-27-2005, 07:36 PM
Yah I definitely push here.

caretaker1
12-27-2005, 07:38 PM
Is this play consensus then?

GtrHtr
12-27-2005, 07:50 PM
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Yeah, I hear you. I'm probably the worst level 3 player on the face of the planet, cause I get raisable hands and don't know wtf to do. Think I might just start usin your ish and open shove. I would like to know how other people handle this kinda thing though.

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Thats my point. I've been posting a few level 3 hands the last couple of days where I don't have a stack to try and figure it out and get a feel for others play. I'm getting a lot of "standard", "wtfareyoupostingthisfingcrapforeasypush" type of replies.

Level 3 sucks.

eniven
12-27-2005, 07:55 PM
I don't know if I like pushing into 5 other people... All to win, 75 chips?

ZBTHorton
12-27-2005, 07:59 PM
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I don't know if I like pushing into 5 other people... All to win, 75 chips?

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Okay.

So you raise to 150. BB calls. Flop comes 9-5-2 rainbow.

What then?

playtitleist
12-27-2005, 08:09 PM
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I don't know if I like pushing into 5 other people... All to win, 75 chips?

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Okay.

So you raise to 150. BB calls. Flop comes 9-5-2 rainbow.

What then?

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I hope somebody has a usable answer to this.

ZBTHorton
12-27-2005, 08:13 PM
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I don't know if I like pushing into 5 other people... All to win, 75 chips?

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Okay.

So you raise to 150. BB calls. Flop comes 9-5-2 rainbow.

What then?

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I hope somebody has a usable answer to this.

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Whatever answer will be used, will be trumped by the fact that he should have pushed in the first place.

playtitleist
12-27-2005, 08:16 PM
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I don't know if I like pushing into 5 other people... All to win, 75 chips?

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Okay.

So you raise to 150. BB calls. Flop comes 9-5-2 rainbow.

What then?

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I hope somebody has a usable answer to this.

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Whatever answer will be used, will be trumped by the fact that he should have pushed in the first place.

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Word.

eniven
12-27-2005, 08:18 PM
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I don't know if I like pushing into 5 other people... All to win, 75 chips?

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Okay.

So you raise to 150. BB calls. Flop comes 9-5-2 rainbow.

What then?

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I think it depends how many callers you get behind you.

Lets say, you raise to 150 and get only one caller behind you. The flop comes 952 rainbow. I think I'd be inclined to make a continuation bet of about 2/3 (t250) the pot into one opponent. I think most times you'll take down the pot there. If you get called, well then... I don't know what I'd do next. Maybe it would be better just to push all in on this flop????

Anyhow, if my 150 preflop raise was called in three spots or more, I'd probably just check/fold that flop.

If my preflop raise was called by exactly two opponents.... That's another tough one. Against tight players, a continuation bet might be in order. Against loose players I might be inclined to check/fold.

Thoughts?

ilya
12-27-2005, 08:19 PM
I don't want to end up folding this, so if you're at a table where a raise is liable to get 2 or more callers, I like just pushing. However if you figure to take the blinds or get HU with a hand like that, I think I like raising &amp; pushing virtually any flop. But I like a big raise, to something like 250. I'm hoping to get a bit more action from hands like KT &amp; A9, and I want to make the pot big enough that they will consider calling with no pair on the flop. I think your chip position is precarious enough here that you would rather get more chips in as a favorite than minimize your risk of busting.

jeffraider
12-27-2005, 10:28 PM
I raise to 150 here always. Sure you've gotta play the hand out on the flop but that's not the end of the world is it? I raise a lot less than AK to 150 as well.