I had no idea there was such an indie following here... [Archive]

12-27-2005, 02:48 AM

I actually just started getting into it, after many years of being a prick about it and refusing to listen. Specifically, I have been hearing great stuff about elliot smith for at least two years, and never listened to anything by him, until about a month ago when I was in this hot girls room at my school, and I actually liked it, so she direct connected all the music he made to me, and I listened to it pretty much nonstop until a few days ago when I forced myself to download more music, such as picaresque by the decemberists. And I am now delving into modest mouse, I downloaded their discography. Any suggestions on bands to listen to? (I've listened to the new pornographers, their ok, I don't really care for Xiu Xiu, and I dislike Bright Eyes)

Macdaddy Warsaw

12-27-2005, 03:01 AM

I'll just recommend Built to Spill. My favorite band ever. Listen to "I Wouldn't Hurt a Fly", "Car", and "Carry the Zero".

Senor Cardgage

12-27-2005, 03:02 AM

Get Neutral Milk Hotel's "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea".

TomHimself

12-27-2005, 03:03 AM

my brothers really big on indie and has a shitload of songs, maybe i can get him posting here more

12-27-2005, 03:38 AM

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I'll just recommend Built to Spill. My favorite band ever. Listen to "I Wouldn't Hurt a Fly", "Car", and "Carry the Zero".

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What are the most popular indie bands that people would recognize by name if there are any?

Macdaddy Warsaw

12-27-2005, 03:43 AM

It's hard to define indie anymore. Modest Mouse is the easy one, though. Now I feel more like it's about some kind of "indie cred" and it's gotten pretty stupid. The Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs have indie cred. Hell, I think Coldplay used to have indie cred before Rush of Blood.

If you want to name some older indie bands, I'd say Sonic Youth and Pavement are "indie", Pavement moreso. Sonic Youth is like..."no-core" whatever that means.

12-27-2005, 03:56 AM

Some previously unmentioned biggies: Arcade Fire, Wolf Parade, Spoon, The Shins...

And another one that gets a special shout out because they are from my hometown: Calexico.

Senor Cardgage

12-27-2005, 03:56 AM

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It's hard to define indie anymore. Modest Mouse is the easy one, though. Now I feel more like it's about some kind of "indie cred" and it's gotten pretty stupid. The Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs have indie cred. Hell, I think Coldplay used to have indie cred before Rush of Blood.

If you want to name some older indie bands, I'd say Sonic Youth and Pavement are "indie", Pavement moreso. Sonic Youth is like..."no-core" whatever that means.

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The Shins are an indie band who've gotten fairly mainstream since Garden State came out.

Macdaddy Warsaw

12-27-2005, 03:57 AM

Alone Again Or rocks my socks so hard.

chuddo

12-27-2005, 06:02 AM

ugh macdaddy, i hope you realize that it is a cover of the far far far superior love/arthur lee.

but if i was a betting man, i would say you were blissfully unawares.

Macdaddy Warsaw

12-27-2005, 06:16 AM

BLISSFULLY UNAWARES [censored]

EDIT: So yeah, I wasn't missing out on much. "Far, far, far" is a stretch, eh?

chuddo

12-27-2005, 06:24 AM

far far then. then again i liked love and that song a long time ago. and thought wes anderson used it brilliantly in 'bottle rocket'.

i think calexico is decent by the way. but when that plays, i almost always switch to arthur lee.

Emmitt2222

12-27-2005, 08:38 AM

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Get Neutral Milk Hotel's "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea".

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OP, I did this exact thing at first and I highly suggest against it. It turned me off to indie for awhile because it is just so out there. Give it a listen to later on after you have heard more stuff.

mike l.

12-27-2005, 09:17 AM

try:
sufjan stevens
will oldham/bonnie prince billy
songs ohia/magnolia electric co
zumpano (pre-new pornographers and better)
turin brakes
go team are very popular around here
belle and sebastian

there's tons of good stuff out there. get on [censored] and dig in.

Eurotrash

12-27-2005, 10:48 AM

I would recommend the Decemberists and Iron and Wine.

both of these are pretty obscure and if you ever find yourself in a hipster argument with Jack of Arcades or CallMeIshmael you can just drop either name and instantly claim the upper hand.

I'd advise staying far, far away from bands like Modest Mouse who have "music videos" on television. they are [censored] sellouts and have already killed their cred. you will be a laughing stock if you listen to this.

also, don't forget some of The Clash to keep it real/old school.

good luck, and just remember that when you debate hipster music on this board the true masters are going to try to overwhelm you with the most obscure stuff just to make you feel like less of a person. sometimes they'll even make up bands/albums/songs just to test you. if you find yourself in one of these situations, just remember that while the person talks big and tough, on the inside he is just a little boy in Spain playing pianos filled with flames.

Soul Daddy

12-27-2005, 11:01 AM

It's amazing that you that you can run with this joke for so long and continue to find ways to make it amusing. Nice work.

IndieMatty

12-27-2005, 11:23 AM

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It's amazing that you that you can run with this joke for so long and continue to find ways to make it amusing. Nice work.

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Slow Play Ray

12-27-2005, 11:33 AM

rooftop suicide club (http://www.myspace.com/rooftopsuicideclub)

Hamish McBagpipe

12-27-2005, 11:39 AM

The Listening Post on Accuradio.com is great for new stuff and you can skip the crap you don't like. Current play list includes Sufjan, My Morning Jacket, New Pornographers, Wolf Parade, Son Volt, Nickel Creek, and Coheed and Cambria, all decent. Unfortunately they also have a couple of tracks from the new McCartney and Stones album, but luckily you can just skip them. I highly recommend this channel for new but accessible stuff.

MonkeeMan

12-27-2005, 12:37 PM

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I'd advise staying far, far away from bands like Modest Mouse who have "music videos" on television. they are [censored] sellouts and have already killed their cred. you will be a laughing stock if you listen to this.

also, don't forget some of The Clash to keep it real/old school.

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I swear I saw a Clash video, [censored] sellouts.

Does being indie mean you can never be popular???

12-27-2005, 01:34 PM

MTV played the video for "Rock the Casbah" in heavy rotation.

12-27-2005, 02:16 PM

thanks for all the replies guys. in response to some of the suggestions, I've already downloaded some Iron & Wine, I forget what it sounds like though so I'll have to listen again, and Belle & Sebastian, which I enjoy.

what do yall think of elliot smith?

kagame

12-27-2005, 02:42 PM

can someone explain iron and wine to me?

why death cab, postal service, AND iron and wine?

it just seems so excessive

btw ARCADE FIRE ARCADE FIRE ARCADE FIRE IS AWESOME

jason_t

12-27-2005, 02:46 PM

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Quinn Warren

12-27-2005, 03:17 PM

For starters:

1. The Shins

2. Built to Spill

3. Wilco

Then move on to:

4. Yo La Tengo

5. Super Furry Animals

6. Magnetic Fields

7. Broken Social Scene

Finally, attempt:

8. Will Oldham (Bonnie Prince Billy)

9. Les Savy Fav

10. Clap Your Hands Say Yeah

11. Wolf Parade

Honorable metion to a fantastic indie pop band from the early 80's:

The Dbs. Their album-Stands for Decibles

CallMeIshmael

12-27-2005, 03:47 PM

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I would recommend the Decemberists and Iron and Wine.

both of these are pretty obscure and if you ever find yourself in a hipster argument with Jack of Arcades or CallMeIshmael you can just drop either name and instantly claim the upper hand.

I'd advise staying far, far away from bands like Modest Mouse who have "music videos" on television. they are [censored] sellouts and have already killed their cred. you will be a laughing stock if you listen to this.

also, don't forget some of The Clash to keep it real/old school.

good luck, and just remember that when you debate hipster music on this board the true masters are going to try to overwhelm you with the most obscure stuff just to make you feel like less of a person. sometimes they'll even make up bands/albums/songs just to test you. if you find yourself in one of these situations, just remember that while the person talks big and tough, on the inside he is just a little boy in Spain playing pianos filled with flames.

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OMG are you on lately.

ESP the part in gold... genius, pure genius!!

CallMeIshmael

12-27-2005, 03:51 PM

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I'll just recommend Built to Spill. My favorite band ever. Listen to "I Wouldn't Hurt a Fly", "Car", and "Carry the Zero".

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What are the most popular indie bands that people would recognize by name if there are any?

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I would say the shins, spoon or wilco.

Georgia Avenue

12-27-2005, 03:53 PM

Sebadoh est LA BOMBA.

BTW: Is "indie" still short for something, or is it just a word now? The music-nit complaint that "indie" bands are no longer on independent labels is so tired and seems almost superfluous to the genre...(Like that dumb: "MTV doesn't even play videos" or "Rap is CRAP deheheh" moranity)...it has come to mean a particular sound and style, and why not?

I remember the first time I heard the term, in middle school, I thought it had something to do with "India" or "Indigeneous"...maybe we should just declare that indie is short for something else...

--GA

PS: Eurotrash est LA BOMBA aussi...

MonkeeMan

12-27-2005, 04:23 PM

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I remember the first time I heard the term, in middle school, I thought it had something to do with "India" or "Indigeneous

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Wow, that's some wicked middle school vocab. Now if you thought it was the soundtrack from Raiders of the Lost Ark I would guess you were from the US, now I'm guessing some alien place like Mars or France.

Emmitt2222

12-27-2005, 04:31 PM

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I would recommend the Decemberists and Iron and Wine.

both of these are pretty obscure and if you ever find yourself in a hipster argument with Jack of Arcades or CallMeIshmael you can just drop either name and instantly claim the upper hand.

I'd advise staying far, far away from bands like Modest Mouse who have "music videos" on television. they are [censored] sellouts and have already killed their cred. you will be a laughing stock if you listen to this.

also, don't forget some of The Clash to keep it real/old school.

good luck, and just remember that when you debate hipster music on this board the true masters are going to try to overwhelm you with the most obscure stuff just to make you feel like less of a person. sometimes they'll even make up bands/albums/songs just to test you. if you find yourself in one of these situations, just remember that while the person talks big and tough, on the inside he is just a little boy in Spain playing pianos filled with flames.

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OMG are you on lately.

ESP the part in gold... genius, pure genius!!

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I was chuckling the whole way and I hit that line and I just started cracking up.

Georgia Avenue

12-27-2005, 04:34 PM

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I remember the first time I heard the term, in middle school, I thought it had something to do with "India" or "Indigeneous

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Wow, that's some wicked middle school vocab. Now if you thought it was the soundtrack from Raiders of the Lost Ark I would guess you were from the US, now I'm guessing some alien place like Mars or France.

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I love the way your quote of my quote left off the last ". Very meta. You're like a turtlely indie thinker.

BTW I'm from DC. So there's that.

--GA

Eurotrash

12-27-2005, 06:01 PM

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PS: Eurotrash est LA BOMBA aussi...

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thanks, I think.

Jack of Arcades

12-27-2005, 06:07 PM

Your post seems to indicate you think Ben Gibbard is a part of iron and wine. he is not. that is sam beam's work, and it is amazing - especially his last two releases (our endless numbered days and woman king)

IndieMatty

12-27-2005, 06:08 PM

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Your post seems to indicate you think Ben Gibbard is a part of iron and wine. he is not. that is sam beam's work, and it is amazing - especially his last two releases (our endless numbered days and woman king)

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Shut up you arrogant hipster freak.

Jack of Arcades

12-27-2005, 06:08 PM

your best post ever, which honestly isn't tough considering the other ones kinda suck.

CallMeIshmael

12-27-2005, 06:13 PM

Eurotrash

12-27-2005, 06:14 PM

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your best post ever, which honestly isn't tough considering the other ones kinda suck.

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well I guess a backhanded compliment is better than no compliment at all.

thanks, Jack. I never knew you thought so highly of my posts

Jack of Arcades

12-27-2005, 06:21 PM

Here are some of my favorite albums of 2005:

Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary - indie rock
M.I.A. - Arular - hip hop
Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock and Roll - funny, catchy pop rock
Broken Social Scene - self-titled - catchy as all hell.
Bright Eyes - Digital Ash in a Digital Urn - better than Postal Service
Why? - Elephant Eylash - pretty good indie rock from a rapper
Lou Barlow - EMOH - acoustic, folky pop stuff from the driving force of Sebadoh
Fiery Furnaces - EP - spastic pop
Spoon - Gimme Fiction - good pop/rock from the best rock band on the planet
Beck - Guero - it's Beck!
Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake It's Morning - really great country/americana/whatever you wanna call it
Sufjan Stevens - Illinois - piano, horns, and a banjo
Architecture in Helsinki - In Case We Die - cutesy, spastic pop that's really good
LCD Soundsystem - self-titled - great dance music
Russian Futurists - Our Thickness - weird pop music
Decemberists - Picaresque - just plain weird. but catchy.
Bloc Party - Silent Alarm - catchy rock stuff. besides, the lead singer's black, expand your horizons.
Silverjews - Tanglewood Numbers - catchy southern rock stuff
The Boy Least Likely To - The Best Party Ever - quirky pop
The Evens - The Evens - a must if you have any idea who minor threat or fugazi is.
DangerDoom - The Mouse and the Mask - gotta have it if you watch adult swim
Sleater-Kinney - The Woods - Grrl Rock
New Pornographers - Twin Cinema - Great pop rock stuff from an indie supergroup
Ladytron - Witching Hour - electronic pop
Iron and Wine - Woman King - fleshed out folk stuff.

Jack of Arcades

12-27-2005, 06:21 PM

creek bores me to death.

Jack of Arcades

12-27-2005, 06:27 PM

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your best post ever, which honestly isn't tough considering the other ones kinda suck.

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well I guess a backhanded compliment is better than no compliment at all.

thanks, Jack. I never knew you thought so highly of my posts

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oh, you're witty no doubt. it's just kinda annoying. if you weren't talking about me it'd be kinda funny I guess.

I display much more of the attitude I'm (jokingly) accused of when it comes to sports than music though.

thatpfunk

12-27-2005, 06:30 PM

this thread is amazing, thanks mr. trash.

Senor Cardgage

12-27-2005, 06:31 PM

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Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock and Roll - funny, catchy pop rock
The Boy Least Likely To - The Best Party Ever - quirky pop

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I agree with most of your choices, but I really don't like either of these (though I do enjoy the first track on The Best Party Ever). Art Brut's vocals just grate on my nerves, though I suppose a few more listens might help me get used to them.

What do you think of "Feels"?

Jack of Arcades

12-27-2005, 06:42 PM

I liked some of Feels ("Did you see the words," "grass"). "the bees" is the worst song ever.

Senor Cardgage

12-27-2005, 06:46 PM

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I liked some of Feels ("Did you see the words," "grass"). "the bees" is the worst song ever.

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I wouldn't go as far as "worst song ever", but it's good to see someone who kind of agrees. I adore anything Animal Collective does with a decent share of energy, but their slow, atmospheric stuff tends to put me to sleep.

Ulysses

12-27-2005, 06:47 PM

All,

I'm surprised none of you are fans of The Wrens or the Old '97s. Maybe Pitchfork hasn't written about them or something.

Senor Cardgage

12-27-2005, 06:51 PM

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All,

I'm surprised none of you are fans of The Wrens or the Old '97s. Maybe Pitchfork hasn't written about them or something.

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The Wrens are good (I love The Meadowlands). Not too familiar with the Old '97s.

xorbie

12-27-2005, 07:01 PM

the wrens are good, just a bit older and I've only heard their most recent album, because their earlier stuff is hard as hell to find.

Jack of Arcades

12-27-2005, 07:27 PM

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All,

I'm surprised none of you are fans of The Wrens or the Old '97s. Maybe Pitchfork hasn't written about them or something.

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the meadowlands is awesome. I'm iffy on the old 97's, they just seem like they're benign and don't do much for me.

zephed

12-27-2005, 07:58 PM

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Here are some of my favorite albums of 2005:

Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock and Roll - funny, catchy pop rock

Sleater-Kinney - The Woods - Grrl Rock

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Art Brut is effing horrible pretentious crap. wtf man.

Sleater-Kinney is pretty cool, although they could improve by changing up their tone a bit. It's like listening to Pennywise.

xorbie

12-27-2005, 08:01 PM

i just got deerhoof, sleater-kinney and pretty girls make graves. time to give those a good listen.

Jack of Arcades

12-27-2005, 08:28 PM

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Art Brut is effing horrible pretentious crap. wtf man.

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Seeing as though you're a Zep fan, I guess you're an expert on effing horrible pretentious crap.

zephed

12-27-2005, 09:18 PM

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Art Brut is effing horrible pretentious crap. wtf man.

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Seeing as though you're a Zep fan, I guess you're an expert on effing horrible pretentious crap.

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Well I'll take my previous comment back (after listening to their songs again), just their singer is bad. Well, actually, I've heard about ten songs of theirs, and they all have the same/similar song and lyric structures.

pre·ten·tious
adj.

1. Claiming or demanding a position of distinction or merit, especially when unjustified.
2. Making or marked by an extravagant outward show; ostentatious.

Which of these apply to Zep? I'm curious.

Jack of Arcades

12-27-2005, 10:10 PM

Oh, no worries, I was just screwin' with ya. I have no problem with Zep.

zephed

12-27-2005, 10:16 PM

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Oh, no worries, I was just screwin' with ya. I have no problem with Zep.

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I gotta admit I couldn't think of a good comeback.

correia

12-28-2005, 01:59 PM

I think some of these have been mentioned already but heres some of stuff I recommend:
Belle & Sebastian
Nightmare of You
Built To Spill
Death Cab For Cutie
South
Arcade Fire
Built to Spill
Gameface
Appleseed Cast
The Wrens

sfer

12-28-2005, 02:10 PM

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Here are some of my favorite albums of 2005:

Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock and Roll - funny, catchy pop rock

Sleater-Kinney - The Woods - Grrl Rock

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Art Brut is effing horrible pretentious crap. wtf man.

Sleater-Kinney is pretty cool, although they could improve by changing up their tone a bit. It's like listening to Pennywise.

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Your comment about Art Brut makes clear that the point has been totally lost on you.

sfer

12-28-2005, 02:12 PM

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Architecture in Helsinki - In Case We Die - cutesy, spastic pop that's really good

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I can't stop listening to this CD and it keeps getting better and better.

uw_madtown

12-28-2005, 02:16 PM

I gave Architecture in Helsinki another shot last night and still couldn't get into it. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

sfer

12-28-2005, 02:18 PM

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I gave Architecture in Helsinki another shot last night and still couldn't get into it. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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A lot of it is similar to very familiar to new wavish stuff from my childhood, so if you're not my age or never really listened to Squeeze or the Tom Tom Club, I can understand why.