Aces with horrible turn card

[rnmike17602]

Do you play this differently?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (11.40 SB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Button folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.70 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks ...

Bet the turn. You can't assume he has some raggedy nonsense, or a seven, or the flush. The times he doesn't (which is most of the time) you need to bet like crazy and win some dollaz. If you bet the turn and he raises, I would 3-bet that since you picked up the nut flush draw.

BBB

[shant]

Bet the turn.

You are probably beat but until someone tells you your hand is no good you probably want to keep betting it. Especially with the nut flush draw.

[masse75]

Bet it. With the nut flush redraw, you've got equity even if you're behind right now.

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If you bet the turn and he raises, I would 3-bet that since you picked up the nut flush draw.


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3betting qualifies as spew.

[testaaja]

*grunch* I bet the turn. You got outs to nut flush and if he hasn't got straight or a flush you are still ahead many times.

[DeadManJay]

I bet here. Your aces plus your nut flush draw are definately worth a bet IMO.

[midwestkc]

*grunch*

I bet here...you might fold a one card flush draw, any T, plus, I would bet a good portion of the time you are ahead here...I would call a raise, and probably check/fold the river UI.

grunch

I think you have to bet the turn here. If he has the flush or str8, you have outs to the nut flush. I'm not ready to give him credit for the flush/st8 unless he c/r's you. You're check screams weakness too.

grunch

bet the turn, fold if raised (or maybe call and try to make flush).

if he wakes up to a high card on river i might raise.

[DeadManJay]

You fold a turn raise? What are we scared of here? The SF? If hero hits a diamond he's sitting on the Ace-flush.

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Bet the turn. You can't assume he has some raggedy nonsense, or a seven, or the flush. The times he doesn't (which is most of the time) you need to bet like crazy and win some dollaz. If you bet the turn and he raises, I would 3-bet that since you picked up the nut flush draw.

BBB

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i think 3-betting if he raises is a big mistake.

[shant]

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(or maybe call and try to make flush).

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Change maybe to definitely.

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(or maybe call and try to make flush).

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Change maybe to definitely.

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yeah you're right. heh, grunching does help... /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[TomBrooks]

bet the turn

[RustyCJ]

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If you bet the turn and he raises, I would 3-bet that since you picked up the nut flush draw.


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3betting qualifies as spew.

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I do not disagree with you, just want to pose a few questions

When I was first reading through the hand, I definitely thought hero should bet the turn here and I asked myself what would my action be if I was checkraised then.

if UTG checkraises here, does hero have to make the flush here to win?

if we do not improve on the river and UTG bets after the c/r, what's the plan?

if there were 2 players to act behind hero, would a 3-bet be a consideration on the turn then? (if we were c/r'd on the turn)