$55 - Ballsy? Stupid? Stupid Balls?

[sofere]

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UTG (t1484)
CO (t1714)
Button (t1865)
Hero (t2382)
BB (t2555)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises t400 (2.5x BB)</font>, BB calls t300

Flop: (t1000) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: (t1000) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t600</font>

[z32fanatic]

I would just complete preflop. Betting the turn is ok I guess. I think the preflop min raise is bad and has gotten you in a terrible situation now. I would probably just check/fold this hand and try not to get in this situation again.

[J-Lo]

bet the flop and be done with it... i like the limp and bet any flop line-- i hate losing ~1000 chips here, prefer to risk 300 to win 200.

[otctrader]

Well to begin with I shove it in preflop with 12xbb's since I'm OOP without hesitation.

Having minraised, once I see that flop I'm thinking BB special and really don't want to invest more. If I'm in his shoes, I'd be wondering why you checked a drawish flop into a random hand and be very tempted to jam your turn bet.

[sofere]

The raise was 2.5x bb, not minraise.

[Burno]

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bet the flop and be done with it... i like the limp and bet any flop line-- i hate losing ~1000 chips here, prefer to risk 300 to win 200.

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I like the limp and bet any flop I don't make OESD, TP or better on line.

[otctrader]

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The raise was 2.5x bb, not minraise.

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Gotcha, I still stand by pushing preflop. If your raise was 2.5xbb you're investing 21% of your stack, and I really don't want to be out of position in this situation.

If you forced me into your shoes I'd either shove a non-ace flop or throw out some weird looking but committing bet (800 or whatever).

[sofere]

I do limp here a lot and occasionally push, but I don't particularly like either of them. The flop misses me too much and I've got a decent blind stealing hand here; I don't want to give a free flop. And I'm risking way a helluva lot by pushing here.

I don't think this was a good flop for a C-bet. It looks like the flop missed me and villain can reraise push me out with a lot of hands. I was planning on check folding to any bet, but villain showed extreme weakness by checking behind. with that draw heavy board. Leaving me to think villain has overs.

The 6 was a very docile card and I thought it left it wide open to take the pot away there. If any A, T or J hits on the turn, I'm done. I think i'm also done if a flush card hits.

[sofere]

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If your raise was 2.5xbb you're investing 21% of your stack, and I really don't want to be out of position in this situation.

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From the SB it is 17.5% actually. Still pretty big.

[J-Lo]

I think you're giving the villain too much credit-- why can't u have an overpair? How would u play an overpair/monster? If he's gona bluff raise/push on flop, why can't he do that on turn? You showed weakness then he showed weakness... He knows that, so you could use the same logic on the turn that u used on the flop. (he could bluff raise me w/ alot of hands vs my continuation bet) MAN I SUCK AT ARTICULATING MY THOUGHTS. brought to you by the department of redundency department.

[bobneptune]

"The 6 was a very docile card and I thought it left it wide open to take the pot away there. If any A, T or J hits on the turn, I'm done. I think i'm also done if a flush card hits."

BN

if i'm your opponent i'm not buying the 6 as a card that fits your hand and justifies your turn bet. i'm coming over the top.

limp preflop?? way too weaktight imo 5 way... push preflop if blind is apt to play back otherwise just raise t400 if blinds are 75/150 fold to reraise or push if blinds are 100/200(not sure what blinds actually are)

[bennies]

I think pushing preflop is fine. I like pushing the flop too.

[jeffraider]

I actually really like the way you played it preflop though I think betting this flop is actually pretty good. I'd just put the 600 out there on the flop rather than turn.

[curtains]

I would move allin preflop every time.

[HesseJam]

I move in here too. Life is complicated enough and here is a chance to profitably simplify it.