Small pairs on the Button

[pufferfish]

Loose and passive game texture.

Blinds don’t tend to raise pre-flop.

Two callers to you.

SB may or may not complete. Only four (including you) guaranteed to see the flop.

Fold your 3’s and move on or play?

TC,
pf

[Jeffage]

Call.

Jeff

[JohnShaft]

I'd only consider playing this if the players didn't raise preflop but were very aggressive post (and particlarly on the) flop.

It just doesn't sound like a good spot to make money flopping a set with short odds.

[pufferfish]

I'd only consider playing this if the players didn't raise preflop but were very aggressive post (and particlarly on the) flop.

You make a good point. The game that finally prompted this post was pretty passive pre-flop. Post-flop there were a couple of aggressive types and a couple of calling station types that would pay you off pretty well.

TY,
pf

[pufferfish]

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[Dynasty]

If you fold 33 in this spot, just quit playing poker today. You haven't got the heart.

[pufferfish]

If you fold 33 in this spot, just quit playing poker today. You haven't got the heart.

Sometimes I have more heart than brains and sometimes it’s the other way around.

I have so many poker does and don’t swirling around my little pea brain that I get confused.

Do this; Ok that seems intuitive. Do that, umm OK; even though it’s not intuitive.

You need more callers for small pairs, except in XYZ situation. The more I play the less I know, the more I know, the less I know. Help I can’t wake up!

Thank you for replying.

TC,
pf

[Dynasty]

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You need more callers for small pairs, except in XYZ situation.

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Remember, profitably playing pocket pairs has little to do with pre-flop pot odds. Their profitability is almost entirely determined by having opponents who will pay you off for multiple bets post-flop when you make a set.

[pufferfish]

TC,
pf

[rkiray]

The normal rule of thumb I use here is I would always call with pair 66 or better and raise with TT or better. Since you describe the game as passive I would not play a pair lower than 66. Pairs prefer an aggressive game so you make more money when you flop a set. Suited connectors do better in the game you describe.

[pufferfish]

If you have some calling stations in your game and they will see the river with you, is that not just as good?

TY,
pf

[Ulysses]

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Fold your 3’s and move on or play?

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You have a pair. You have the button. What more do you need to play?

[pufferfish]

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You have a pair. You have the button. What more do you need to play?

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Thank you,
pf

[Ed Miller]

I can't think of a game where I would fold here.

[rkiray]

I don't think so. When I flop a set I want to get action from anyone with a bigger pair, good draw,etc. I want the passive players when I'm playing suited connectors and flop either an oesd or a four flush. This way I don't have to pay much to draw (or if there are 3 or more or them I can jam the pot and be showing a profit statistacally). BTW I'll only flop a set 11.5% of the time. I'll flop the big draw over 20% of the time.

[Homer]

Easy call, puffer.

-- Homer