Standard? 33

[Eihli]

***** Hand History for Game 3258008533 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:18580688 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Sunday, December 25, 05:05:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 66994 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: antiseen ( $1170 )
Seat 2: lighthenge ( $975 )
Seat 3: The__Shiznit ( $745 )
Seat 4: papag0rgi0 ( $1600 )
Seat 7: anika222 ( $875 )
Seat 9: amberman11 ( $2635 )
Trny:18580688 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
There is no Small Blind in this hand as the Big Blind of the previous hand left the table.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to papag0rgi0 [ 7h Kh ]
amberman11 folds.
>You have options at Table 66749 Table!.
antiseen folds.
lighthenge folds.
The__Shiznit folds.
>You have options at Table 66962 Table!.
papag0rgi0 is all-In [1600]
anika222 folds.
papag0rgi0 does not show cards.
papag0rgi0 wins 1700 chips

Some reads would be nice

[applejuicekid]

I would fold, but I don't hate it.

[Eihli]

Played several thousand SNG's months back, Moved to 2/4-5/10 NL for a while. Need to re-learn some of the basics to make sure my pushing isn't too tight or loose.

[nthn2fancy]

not standard...i fold here

[Eihli]

BB has 8.5x BB.

[nthn2fancy]

and u have 16xBB, whats the point of this push? to increase ur stack by 100?...i dont like it

[Eihli]

Would you ever fold K7s heads up from the small blind?

I don't think so, so i don't really see an argument for folding.

[ QUOTE ]
and u have 16xBB, whats the point of this push? to increase ur stack by 100?...i dont like it

[/ QUOTE ]

Me neither .All that pushing here gains is increasing the villans calling range for later.

[applejuicekid]

[ QUOTE ]
Would you ever fold K7s heads up from the small blind?

I don't think so, so i don't really see an argument for folding.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't see how your first question supports your conclusion. You aren't playing heads up. I think this is a situation where you are risking a lot to gain very little. And as another poster said you will hurt your image.

[Sciolist]

Well, I probably make this push. It seems I'm going against the grain though.

I'm pushing. And I prefer completing over folding here too, you'll get a lot cheap flops at 33s here.

[DMACM]

Im surprised to see so many people advocating a fold. Maybe this is something I need to rethink but I push this 100% of the time. K7s is not a bad hand. Disclamer: I play the 22s I tried like 15 33s and lost them all /images/graemlins/frown.gif.

Edited: just something else to think about for those saying it will hurt your image and thus decrease fe for later. Leaving him 150 more chips also decreases fe for later.

[microbet]

Looks fine. BB has 875 and there is no SB, right? Only BB to act? People might be thinking you are button, 875 is SB, and the 2600 stack is BB.

[johnnybeef]

If this is your first push, then bb is likely very tight. As such this is a +EV shove.

[The Yugoslavian]

This push is fine but you already knew that so I'm not sure what the problem is. I don't hate folding either as there are only 100 chips up for grabs rather than 50 and you could use a bit extra FE when the blinds get higher (since with your stack you'll likely make level 6 or higher when the blinds become a significant portion of the total chips in play).

Yugoslav

[curtains]

Moving allin is the only reasonable play, folding against basically any opponent is completely ridiculous. Everyone who is advocating to fold, this one leak is probably costing you ridiculously huge amounts of money. Folding here is SOOO SO bad its undescribable. If you continue to do that in similar situations you will never win any serious money playing sit and gos.

[Snarf]

[ QUOTE ]
Moving allin is the only reasonable play, folding against basically any opponent is completely ridiculous. Everyone who is advocating to fold, this one leak is probably costing you ridiculously huge amounts of money. Folding here is SOOO SO bad its undescribable. If you continue to do that in similar situations you will never win any serious money playing sit and gos.

[/ QUOTE ]

This baffles my mind C-dog.

1600 for 100? (Is this another stack-protecting AI vs. raising/missing and losing those raise chips?)

I guess I always tightened my hand requirements/pushing ranges with no SB. A big leak I guess from what you're saying...

[curtains]

Your opponents stack is the relevant one, not mine. Also I didnt see there was no SB, but its still an obvious push, just slightly less +EV.

[microbet]

You knew you were't pushing into the 2600 stack when you said pushing was the only option, right? Of course.

Congrats on post 6000!

[Snarf]

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Your opponents stack is the relevant one, not mine. Also I didnt see there was no SB, but its still an obvious push, just slightly less +EV.

[/ QUOTE ]

Missed the SB's stack. With ya. Thanks.

[curtains]

I knew the guy had like 800-900 chips. /images/graemlins/smile.gif