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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 9 handed) internettexasholdem.com
MP3 ($158.86)
CO ($42.50)
Button ($171.60)
SB ($50.80)
BB ($49.80)
UTG ($53.80)
UTG+1 ($31.13)
MP1 ($58.52)
Hero ($97.92)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, MP3 calls $2, 4 folds.
Flop: ($4.75) T /images/graemlins/club.gif, 6 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP3 raises to $10, Hero calls $6.
Turn: ($24.75) 2 /images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $20, Hero ...
fold right? well, I actually decided to mini c/r with plans of folding to 3bet (which I actually couldn't do since I was being offered like 3 or 4:1 odds - but the question is this is standard fold, right?
I would have put in a larger pre flop raise. Barring that I call his c/r but then bet the pot. He probably has a Tx or an sc that hit a pair.
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I would have put in a larger pre flop raise. Barring that I call his c/r but then bet the pot. He probably has a Tx or an sc that hit a pair.
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why raise larger PF? what happened to the standard 4x + 1 per limper ? Is it because I'm OOP and have a big stack?
trumpman84
12-25-2005, 03:38 AM
standard fold vs a tighty..yes...standard fold vs lag..not at all.
EDIT: If I'm the LAG, I'm putting you on nines or a missed AK or something like that after you played so weakly to my flop information raise and I'm continuing like my tens are good.
aces_dad
12-25-2005, 03:40 AM
PF is fine - use your standard PF raising method.
You described the villian as LAG - why do you respect his flop raise so much?
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PF is fine - use your standard PF raising method.
You described the villian as LAG - why do you respect his flop raise so much?
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well the size alone scared me - its almost a miniraise which usually means nuts from these kind of guys - I wasn't sure what to do from here, whether to 3B or flat call and what plan for turn/riv was -
I wanted to keep the pot fairly small to showdown but that's tough when OOP especially after a PSB on the turn
any better lines?
aces_dad
12-25-2005, 03:59 AM
Why did you call him LAG and think a min-raise means the nuts? Have you seen him overplay TP hands before?
I'd be more concerned from a weak-tight player's flop raise than a LAG's.
There are some LAG's I'm willing to c/r all in on the turn here, so more info on this villian would help.
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Why did you call him LAG and think a min-raise means the nuts? Have you seen him overplay TP hands before?
I'd be more concerned from a weak-tight player's flop raise than a LAG's.
There are some LAG's I'm willing to c/r all in on the turn here, so more info on this villian would help.
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right i'm sorry for the lack of info - here is some : i'll edit Original Post too
he is about 35/12 after 150ish hands and I in fact HAVE seen him overplay top pair and also witnessed his inability to fold hands like A10 on a 8810 flop with lots of action.
theweatherman
12-25-2005, 04:50 AM
Hero three bets the flop with the intention of pushing or c/r allin on almost any turn.
Obviously.
wdeadwyler
12-25-2005, 06:13 AM
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Hero three bets the flop with the intention of pushing or c/r allin on almost any turn.
Obviously.
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Wrong buddy. If villain is really a lag. I check call him down. Let him continue bluffing with worse hands. If we are gonna 3/bet and get it all in on any turn, we just let the LAG stack us with better hands, and beat us with worse hands.
I bet more on the flop then c/r all in on the turn usually, but is stacks are awkward I can just check/call him down too.
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