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NYCNative
12-25-2005, 02:51 AM
Level two of a $20+2 MTT. How's my line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 (t2303)
MP2 (t1375)
MP3 (t4090)
CO (t1755)
Button (t2205)
Hero (t2440)
BB (t3320)
UTG (t1840)
UTG+1 (t1040)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t60</font>, UTG calls t30, MP1 calls t30, Hero calls t30.

Flop: (t240) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, BB calls t200, UTG calls t200, MP1 folds.

Turn: (t840) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks.

River: (t840) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t120</font>, UTG folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t960
AceofSpades
12-25-2005, 04:03 AM
looks good...
betgo
12-25-2005, 10:26 AM
I would call the 1/7 pot bet on the river with 2 pair.
NYCNative
12-25-2005, 11:00 AM
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I would call the 1/7 pot bet on the river with 2 pair.

[/ QUOTE ]What am I beating here besides a total bluff and why is someone in middle position going to make a total bluff? There are straights, flushes, trips and boats here. My tens got counterfeited by the Jacks. I lose to a single Ace or a single Jack.

I might have a 1 in 7 chance of having the best hand against someone head's up because he is stabbing at it but the guy in the middle in a three-way pot? If I'm ahead once every seven times, I'd like to have some kind of hand I am beating here or a reason to believe (sans read) that someone would make a total bluff from that position with that board.
12-25-2005, 11:13 AM
I agree with NYCNative. He can't beat nearly anything. He should save the chips in this case and ignore the enticing pot odds.
Exitonly
12-25-2005, 12:01 PM
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I would call the 1/7 pot bet on the river with 2 pair.

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Yea, me too.

you beat busted Qhigh straightdraws, the occasional 8 drawing to the straight (like 88, or 89).
you win half the pot (still 420, so 120 to win 420, 3.5:1 odds on the river to win v's all 10's (except AT),


Those things happen enough i think.
RacersEdge
12-25-2005, 01:36 PM
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I would call the 1/7 pot bet on the river with 2 pair.

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Yea, me too.

you beat busted Qhigh straightdraws, the occasional 8 drawing to the straight (like 88, or 89).
you win half the pot (still 420, so 120 to win 420, 3.5:1 odds on the river to win v's all 10's (except AT),


Those things happen enough i think.

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Actually 8-1 with the BB bet - so a split gives you 4-1. Probably enough to call.
NYCNative
12-26-2005, 09:37 AM
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you beat busted Qhigh straightdraws, the occasional 8 drawing to the straight (like 88, or 89)... Those things happen enough i think.

[/ QUOTE ]Again, with one person in the pot - or even if the last to act pulled this - maybe. But with so many possible good non-nuts hands that can be out there who will call a value bet it seems quite unlikely to be the case here from the guy in middle position.