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durron597

12-23-2005, 06:19 PM

SB was very tight early so far. MP1 was a donk.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

MP2 (t2160)
CO (t1370)
Button (t600)
SB (t1420)
Hero (t2370)
UTG (t1045)
UTG+1 (t1255)
MP1 (t3280)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, MP1 raises to t100, MP2 calls t100, CO calls t100, 1 fold, SB calls t75, Hero calls t50.

Flop: (t500) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets t300, MP2 folds, CO folds, SB raises to t600, Hero folds,

bigt439

12-23-2005, 06:24 PM

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SB was very tight early so far. MP1 was a donk.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

MP2 (t2160)
CO (t1370)
Button (t600)
SB (t1420)
Hero (t2370)
UTG (t1045)
UTG+1 (t1255)
MP1 (t3280)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, MP1 raises to t100, MP2 calls t100, CO calls t100, 1 fold, SB calls t75, Hero calls t50.

Flop: (t500) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets t300, MP2 folds, CO folds, SB raises to t600, Hero folds,

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Meh.

I need a big read to do this, and if MP1s a donk then, well I don't like this very much at all. If sb has been tight the chance he is holding Q3 or Q7 and completed with it are significantly lower. This could be any Q from the SB IMO. And well, given your read, we won't really worry about MP1, you got him.

durron597

12-23-2005, 06:29 PM

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If sb has been tight the chance he is holding Q3 or Q7 and completed with it are significantly lower. This could be any Q from the SB IMO.

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He didn't complete, he called a level 3 minraise. But he was folding to completes in level 1. To call the minraise preflop and have a hand I beat here means he has exactly KQ... but I would have been very surprised to see him flip over KQ at showdown after this flop action.

yvesaint

12-23-2005, 06:44 PM

hey, bet the flop

bawcerelli

12-23-2005, 06:46 PM

so you think he has a set? KK and AA he reraises preflop.

durron597

12-23-2005, 06:52 PM

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hey, bet the flop

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Why, I have a donkey preflop raiser to act after me

gisb0rne

12-23-2005, 07:10 PM

I fold preflop.

durron597

12-23-2005, 07:47 PM

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I fold preflop.

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I know you do, and the SB was on the same order of tightness as you.

Bill Poker

12-23-2005, 07:54 PM

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I fold preflop.

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thats tight.

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so you think he has a set? KK and AA he reraises preflop.

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what else can SB have?

durron597

12-23-2005, 07:56 PM

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so you think he has a set? KK and AA he reraises preflop.

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what else can SB have?

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I think his range is exactly AQ/77/33.

Bill Poker

12-23-2005, 07:59 PM

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so you think he has a set? KK and AA he reraises preflop.

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what else can SB have?

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I think his range is exactly AQ/77/33.

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is he more likely slow play a set on this drawless flop? check/miniraise is more like a set.

Nick M

12-23-2005, 08:35 PM

on paper this looks like a crazy fold....but I think I might do the same. I have no idea, I think you gotta be there.

Jbrochu

12-23-2005, 09:26 PM

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He didn't complete, he called a level 3 minraise. But he was folding to completes in level 1. To call the minraise preflop and have a hand I beat here means he has exactly KQ... but I would have been very surprised to see him flip over KQ at showdown after this flop action.

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Maybe, but he could also have noticed the other guy is a LAG donk and be making a play back at him. I think you make pretty good reads though so you're probably correct.

12-23-2005, 09:30 PM

This kind of post is meaningless without posting read information. It's not a good play at a low-limit table of unknowns, but it's an extremely easy play if you have PAHud up with several hundred hands of information displayed on SB.

Actually, now that I think about it I guess even with the read information that'd make OP meaningless. Unless of course the point of the original post is just to prove that you aren't some kind of LAG moeran.

curtains

12-23-2005, 10:30 PM

Such plays are within reason IMO. I dont have a big problem with it...some guys you just know that they arent likely to do this without better than AQ.

I may have played the hand exactly the same way. I almost always check this flop too.