($55) If curtains can post one, so can I

[durron597]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

SB (t2105)
BB (t3435)
UTG (t1015)
MP1 (t1345)
Hero (t1210)
CO (t2875)
Button (t1515)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t150, MP1 calls t150.

Flop: (t625) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t400</font>, BB folds, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: t1025

[45suited]

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[durron597]

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I remembered this hand, but not what my exact starting hand was so when I was searching for it I put a ton of filters on and this was the only hand I could find that was even remotely like this. So nyah.

As I recall the blinds were tight and the limper was limping every single hand and folding most flops.

[fluorescenthippo]

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isnt he already there?

[durron597]

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isnt he already there?

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poker is my hobby not my job

[bennies]

The flop bet is sort of mandatory after the two checks.

The preflop raise was invented by the man later known for a variation of this move, that is, pushing over limpers from the bb. You know his initials, he is starting another career I hear, but I do miss him at these boards...

[Elektrik]

I don't like it at all. Especially at a lower buy in. Regardless of your read on MP2.

[The Yugoslavian]

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I don't like it at all <font color="red">unless Giga made it</font>. Especially at a lower buy in. Regardless of your read on MP2.

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Yugoslav

[The Yugoslavian]

Yeah, so this hand has nothing to do with curtains as far as I can tell....and it's just a bad idea preflop all around. Pretty much on any table.

Yugoslav

[durron597]

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I don't like it at all. Especially at a lower buy in. Regardless of your read on MP2.

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Since when is $55 a lower buyin? I've done this once in 20,000 hands, and I definitely had a strong read on the limper.

[The Yugoslavian]

durron,

The biggest problem with doing this 'move' at a $55 is the players behind you (despite your initial limper read)...My guess is that this sort of thing isn't even really possibly +EV until *maybe* the 109s or 215s.

Yugoslav

[Elektrik]

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I don't like it at all <font color="red">unless Giga made it</font>. Especially at a lower buy in. Regardless of your read on MP2.

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Well, obviously giga will get a K95 flop and triple up against AK and AA, so I'd be fine there.

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Since when is $55 a lower buyin?

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I say that due to the quality of players, and relevance of your information of those players in regards to the situation. For instance, the fact that:

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doesn't matter much at this buy in.

You're putting too much at risk in MP here without a hand.

[bigt439]

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Yeah. Just think about the risk verse reward proposition here. You know why this is bad.

[curtains]

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durron,

The biggest problem with doing this 'move' at a $55 is the players behind you (despite your initial limper read)...My guess is that this sort of thing isn't even really possibly +EV until *maybe* the 109s or 215s.


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When you say this is +EV at 109s or 215s, are you talking about image that regulars would remember or something? It just doesn't seem like a pfr with 95o and then betting any ragged flop can be profitable. Could you elaborate on why making this move can be +EV if it isn't just a table image "future gains" sort of reason?