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12-23-2005, 02:57 AM
I came accross a link while browsing "poker bot" on ebay.

Apparently this guys claims it is profitable and is selling it for 10k
Alobar
12-23-2005, 03:13 AM
he blurred out the money won in all the columns (and the rake paid), then he left how many hands and what the winrate was, unblurred, yet he is smart enough to make a winning bot?
Reef
12-23-2005, 03:16 AM
lol, it beats micro micro limits at 2bb/100.
obsidian
12-23-2005, 03:17 AM
Considering he used .10/.25 as the base to tell you it is profitable I'm not too worried. He's be lucky to get $50 for this much less $10,000.
dlk9s
12-23-2005, 02:21 PM
They are scams.
Salerosa
12-23-2005, 02:59 PM
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They are scams.

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Really? Damnit I need to get my money back /images/graemlins/mad.gif /images/graemlins/mad.gif /images/graemlins/mad.gifI thought I was going to finally be a winning poker player /images/graemlins/mad.gif /images/graemlins/mad.gif /images/graemlins/mad.gif
GrannyMae
12-23-2005, 03:45 PM
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I came accross a link while browsing "poker bot" on ebay.

Apparently this guys claims it is profitable and is selling it for 10k

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where is link? we can't discuss this mike?
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smoore
12-23-2005, 03:46 PM
I saw it, it was a bunch of con-text with a couple PT screenshots, opening bid was 10k.
GrannyMae
12-23-2005, 04:13 PM
opening bid was 10k

which makes it *much* different than the rest of the "bots" on ebay.

i searched ebay and found it. looks like a dumbbot
12-28-2005, 04:30 AM
I saw on the Winholdem forums that a bot is worth 5000 times how much it makes in one day. If this is the case, $10000 sounds correct to me.
Allinlife
12-28-2005, 04:52 AM
I saw someone selling money printer on ebay too

you would have to be a fool to buy it though, dont you think?
RikaKazak
12-28-2005, 08:44 AM
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I saw someone selling money printer on ebay too

you would have to be a fool to buy it though, dont you think?

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What??!?!?!?! money printer, I'm ALL IN THAT!!!!!!!!!!

LOLOLOLOOLOLOL
12-28-2005, 10:46 AM
Why would a bot be worth 5000x times what it could make in a day?

You would have to run the bot on multiple accounts on multiple sites just to break even before you either got caught or they updated their software and it broke the bot.
IggyWH
12-28-2005, 10:57 AM
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I saw on the Winholdem forums that a bot is worth 5000 times how much it makes in one day. If this is the case, $10000 sounds correct to me.

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How's your WHE bot doing? Crushing those .01/.02 games eh?
kurosh
12-28-2005, 10:59 AM
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I saw on the Winholdem forums that a bot is worth 5000 times how much it makes in one day. If this is the case, $10000 sounds correct to me.

[/ QUOTE ]This is the guy selling the bot. Honestly, it looks legitimate to me.
jman220
12-28-2005, 11:26 AM
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I saw on the Winholdem forums that a bot is worth 5000 times how much it makes in one day. If this is the case, $10000 sounds correct to me.

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What!?! Think about this statement for a second. I mean, actually think about the stupidity of what you just said. You would pay $10,000 for a bot that could make $2 a day? That means someone who purchased the bot would take 13 years of continuous play, 24/7, just to break even. You are a moron.
GrannyMae
12-28-2005, 01:05 PM
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I saw on the Winholdem forums that a bot is worth 5000 times how much it makes in one day. If this is the case, $10000 sounds correct to me.

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What!?! Think about this statement for a second. I mean, actually think about the stupidity of what you just said. You would pay $10,000 for a bot that could make $2 a day? That means someone who purchased the bot would take 13 years of continuous play, 24/7, just to break even. You are a moron.

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i agree that these bots might not make this bb/100.

however, the reason that the price is OK is because you can run 10 (or more) at 1 time.
solucky
12-28-2005, 02:11 PM
thats around 6% / year not to bad. The problem is the bot is perhaps not profitable in 6 month.
BradleyT
12-28-2005, 02:47 PM
Wow - VP$IP 6.25 /images/graemlins/confused.gif
r3vbr
12-28-2005, 02:53 PM
If someone showed me a bot that had a very high artificial inteligente, and could easily beat the NL25 tables at PS and Party, I would gladly pay over $30,000 for it.

I would then buy several server pc's for $100 a piece (about 50 of them), hire 2 or 3 friends to help me, and start my pokerbot company /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

We would have hundreds of accounts spread, leave just bare minimum bankroll for if the site catches 1 bot, you just lose a little bit more than your buyin, etc.

I assume you can earn easy over 1 million first year, and if you manage well, grow to up to 5 million on following years (dominating all the micro limit tables there are availible) and hiring more staff and investing on more servers.

10k for a truly great bot, is peanuts
BradleyT
12-28-2005, 03:00 PM
Well, all this one is is a nut grinder. From the auction he has a link to his webpage with PT stats.

From his webpage he has a link to his blog. He knows what he's doing (in terms of poker bots).
slavic
12-28-2005, 03:00 PM
you overestimate the size of the available cash pool.
slavic
12-28-2005, 03:12 PM
This logic for this bot has been written several times before and you can read it in Ed Miller's getting started in hold'em book. All this thing is doig is waiting for a group 1 or 2 hand and pushing in preflop. I'm actually willing to bet the grouping is a little tighter thatn 1 or 2 but in reallity it's a preflop nut puddler with no postflop decisions. So buy in for the min and leave a table if you double or reload if you don't.
itsmarty
12-28-2005, 03:49 PM
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He knows what he's doing (in terms of poker bots).

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He certainly knows how to state things matter-of-factly. Whether that means anything about his poker bot skill is unknown.

Martin
obsidian
12-28-2005, 05:30 PM
A good bot is a long ways in the making. Especially one that can play multiway as most of the advanced bots nowadays seem to be geared for heads up play. Theoretically though, it most certainly seems possible.
slavic
12-28-2005, 08:44 PM
Multiplayer bots are certainly possible and I think you can likely find a few capable of pulling a decent profit right now. If they exist they will not be on the open market.
12-28-2005, 08:57 PM
I'd be pretty leary of paying that kind of cash for any item that could become obsolete at any moment. All it would take would be for one of ther sites to write a program that would render the bot unusable, and the $10k is gone.

I've also heard about a product that supposedly makes a man's p_nis grow larger. I think they called it a centerfold.