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wacki
12-22-2005, 09:12 AM
piss me off.

Seriously try to navigate this website and find the shoes I just bought.

http://www.ecco.com/


Which are shown here

http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/117624/c/1201.html


It takes forever. I gave up. Whowever makes flash websites, please stop. It's [censored] annoying. At minimum provide an alternative static page. Slow sites = bad for business.

-Skeme-
12-22-2005, 09:14 AM
Yeah, that site was done very badly. Usually they have the alternative .html page, which are always better.

diebitter
12-22-2005, 09:16 AM
I'm a web developer, and I agree. Flash front screen are utterly, utterly, utterly, utterly retarded.

Flash's only place is to convey graphical information for knowledge transfer, or as a sideline entertainment thing - not as a gee-whizzy pile of main-page sweaty bollocks.

shant
12-22-2005, 02:32 PM
Hey diebitter,

I'm a Flash designer and programmer, and there are many times when Flash is completely appropriate for an entire site. Most of the sites I worked on were for upcoming movies, personal websites for music artists, or just informational and entertaining sites for major brands.

Obviously, e-commerce sites are not ideal in Flash unless they're using a good company to build it so it works great, but saying that Flash for an entire site is bad is not true. Adobe recently purchased Flash and is stepping it up with every release. More and more sites will be fully made in Flash. It sucks that some companies have low budgets and let crap Flash work slide because it is all they can afford, but I believe they are in the minority.

You can see a lot of good examples of Flash sites at THE FWA (http://www.thefwa.com). I reccomend checking out Eminem's and Beck's sites.

fluxrad
12-22-2005, 02:38 PM
shant, i'm sorry, but you're wrong. there is only one time flash is appropriate for an entire site (http://zombo.com/).

Shajen
12-22-2005, 02:41 PM
OMG ZOMBOCOM IS AWESOME!!!! ZOMBOCOM. YOU CAN DO ANYTHING AT ZOMBOCOM!!!!

trotski
12-22-2005, 02:45 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I'm a web developer, and I agree. Flash front screen are utterly, utterly, utterly, utterly retarded.

Flash's only place is to convey graphical information for knowledge transfer, or as a sideline entertainment thing - not as a gee-whizzy pile of main-page sweaty bollocks.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is right on, Diebitter. I'm also a web developer, and Flash is a plague upon the internet. Should only be used in small doses, if at all.

mason55
12-22-2005, 03:10 PM
Flash: 99% bad (http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20001029.html)

From the internet's top usability expert.

wacki
12-22-2005, 06:14 PM
Hi shant.

1) The FWA site sucks
2) die please!

mason55
12-22-2005, 06:16 PM
Shant,

How do I bookmark a page on an all Flash site?

diebitter
12-22-2005, 06:18 PM
Oh, we're just not gonna agree on this.

Hell, let's just go bowling /images/graemlins/grin.gif

shant
12-23-2005, 01:51 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Shant,

How do I bookmark a page on an all Flash site?

[/ QUOTE ]
I think you just pwned me.