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B00T
12-21-2005, 01:02 PM
Dear xxx,

This is an EXCLUSIVE LIMITED TIME offer for the FIRST 30 VIPs who earn 25,000 Regular Party Points to get onto the PartyPoker.com Million V Cruise and play for a ‘PPM V package’ worth $12,800!

Yes! Only the FIRST 30 VIPs who party for 7 days on PartyPoker.com and earn more than 25,000 Party Points and you will be able to buy a ‘PPM V package’ for just 50,000 Party Points!

Qualifying period: Saturday, December 24, 2005; 00:00 am (ET) to Tuesday, January 3, 2006; 23:59 pm (ET). 2005; 23:59 p.m. (ET).

As soon as you have earned 25,000 Regular Party Points please send an email to vip@partypoker.com telling us that you have qualified and that you would like to purchase the package for 50,000 Party Points.

Once you have sent your email, we will verify the number of Party Points you have accumulated and on January 5, 2006 we will award you an exclusive VIP seat on the cruise. Your Party Points will then be automatically deducted from your account.

DON’T FORGET! It’s a LIMITED offer for the FIRST 30 VIPs only so HURRY!

Please note: You can only purchase a “PPM V package” if you have 50,000 Party Points in your account when you email us even if you earn 25,000 Party Points in the qualifying period!

augie00
12-21-2005, 01:45 PM
dumb dumb dumb, just like i expected. if you are not "gold" status you have no chance. bye party.

jba
12-21-2005, 01:47 PM
"Please note: You can only purchase a “PPM V package” if you have 50,000 Party Points in your account when you email us even if you earn 25,000 Party Points in the qualifying period!"

WTF?


i just spent 30k points on freerolls so I guess I'm screwed

12-21-2005, 01:49 PM
This is so lame.

popeye18
12-21-2005, 01:57 PM
So in the e-mail i couldnt find anything saying it was just regular party points. Anyone think bonus points will count towards the 25k as well?

LImitPlayer
12-21-2005, 01:59 PM
For those players who are gold status already and earn 2x the amount of points that a blue member would earn for the same play, are those extra points considered bonus points or regular points?

scrub
12-21-2005, 02:00 PM
Stupid Party.

scrub

12-21-2005, 02:15 PM
I have to earn 35,000 partypoints in a week at Blue level. So that's about 116,000 raked hands. This is SO doable.

Tk79
12-21-2005, 02:23 PM
For a 3/6 player this is only 42k raked hands. I have 57% of my hands raked this month at 3/6. This makes it almost 74k hands in 7 days including christmas and new years. Seems like around 16hrs/day if I ten table and play every day. Sounds like a good time but I think Ill pass on this one.

When my rep(dan) promised me a better deal this month he clearly was full of [censored].

EDIT: I decided I may not have to 10 table the whole time. If I just play 24hrs/day I only need to get in 440 hands/hr. That should be easy playing only 6-7 tables. A little over 7 hands/minute for a week straight....1 hand every 8 secondsish..... here I come.

NOTE: This is sure to make Christmas dinner a bit akward.

Catt
12-21-2005, 02:33 PM
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I have to earn 35,000 partypoints in a week at Blue level. So that's about 116,000 raked hands. This is SO doable.

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But you won't change from Blue to Gold until Jan 1 (it only happens quarterly).

Enjoy!

12-21-2005, 02:38 PM
yes. In a month were I would have made about 1.5k in rakeback, I will instead get the chance for a PPM V cruise if I just 10 table 26 hours a day for a week.

Tk79
12-21-2005, 02:49 PM
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if I just 10 table 26 hours a day for a week.



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This is certianly worth a try.

12-21-2005, 02:57 PM
Let the battle of the bots begin!

It won't be me...

-S&SGW

Newt_Buggs
12-21-2005, 03:01 PM
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I have to earn 35,000 partypoints in a week at Blue level. So that's about 116,000 raked hands. This is SO doable.

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But you won't change from Blue to Gold until Jan 1 (it only happens quarterly).

Enjoy!

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yeah, same here. I've accumulated over 50,000 points but I'm still blue.

Daniture
12-21-2005, 03:02 PM
Let me see i play 2/4 and am level blue(well silver level as soon as they get updated next) so to achieve 25K points i would have to 10 table roughly for 254 hours to get 25k points. LOL

I recommend everyone else email/phone them with their disgust to this offer. I personally never thought i would be leaving PP in the near future but if PS VIP turns out to be anything decent it's sionara PP. I've personally had enough, having to wait til almost the end of december to recieve a offer which is physically impossible for me to achieve is not my idea of a VIP club.

12-21-2005, 03:02 PM
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For those players who are gold status already and earn 2x the amount of points that a blue member would earn for the same play, are those extra points considered bonus points or regular points?

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Those extra points are still regular points.

Catt
12-21-2005, 03:03 PM
I'm not sure why all the negativity about this. I see this offer as generous in that it offers up a prize package worth serious $$$$, and one that appeals to the broadest segment of the Party playing public, to wit:

1. Must be Gold member.

2. Must play mid or high limits.

3. Must multitable, preferably 8+ tables.

4. Must be willing to play ungodly hours on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day and into the work week which is end-of-quarter for any business.

5. Must have 25K plus Party Points ready to go.

6. Must want to go on a cruise.

7. Must have the available resources to go on a cruise (freedom from other commitments, babysitters for the kids, a desire to play poker on a boat for several days, etc.)

8. Prefrably (though not a must) should have a spouse, roomates, friends, etc. that also play high stakes and multi-table and can share the burden of playing non-stop over the holidays on your account.

9. And must hope that one's efforts are sufficient to out-race the others similarly situated. 'Cause, if you don't make the top 25, you are stuck with some freeroll entries or numerous ladies jogging suits.

I for one am phoning the wife and letting her know I'll be busy this Christmas. Large boat full of poker players here I come!!!11!!1!1one!11!

teddyFBI
12-21-2005, 03:07 PM
I hereby announce my intention to qualify for this thing. I actually fit most of the above 9 criteria. If anyone's interested, I will post a running log of my efforts, either here or in the Internet forum.
If this would just be a waste of space, I won't bother.

12-21-2005, 03:16 PM
I'm sure alot of people would be interested. Not much more to bitch about. It would be nice to know how you fair against the other 50 people that are shooting for this.

Catt
12-21-2005, 03:19 PM
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I hereby announce my intention to qualify for this thing. I actually fit most of the above 9 criteria. If anyone's interested, I will post a running log of my efforts, either here or in the Internet forum.
If this would just be a waste of space, I won't bother.

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Awesome. Definitely post about your progress (probably in the Zoo or General). I won't be able to follow it over the 24th or 25th, but I'll definitely come back to the thread on the 26th to see how it's going. Good luck!

(And for goodness' sake, don't forget that you actually have to send them an email when you hit 25K points).

morgant
12-21-2005, 03:50 PM
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NOTE: This is sure to make Christmas dinner a bit akward.


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Nick-Zack
12-21-2005, 05:09 PM
We all want a running trip report and I for one hope that you win.

O Doyle Rules
12-21-2005, 05:43 PM
Hey Teddy,

I will be rooting for you.

What limits will you be playing and what are the estimated number of hands and hours you think you will be playing?

Good Luck!

teddyFBI
12-21-2005, 06:50 PM
In the next day or so, I'm going to sit down and do the math on all the points and such to figure out exactly what combination of tables is most profitable (points-wise). A huge issue is whether or not 'happy hour' points will count...on Party's points page, they describe happy hour points (during which you earn double points) as "Bonus points", but in the promo email they say only "regular" points will count. Microbob told me that it's likely happy hour points will NOT count...(after they got a ton of people in the last cruise promo just referring people and getting bogus deposit points).

Fortunately, I'm comfortable playing pretty much any stakes from 10/20SH to 50/100 full, so like I said I'm going to work out just what permutation of games will maximize my points.

PauliF
12-21-2005, 08:44 PM
not so good at small stakes then?

palman
12-21-2005, 11:35 PM
I am going for it as well. Buying the second monitor tommorrow.

teddyFBI
12-22-2005, 12:42 AM
Doh - sorry to have to pull out of the running for this, but my girlfriend "surprised" me with a weekend trip to a bed and breakfast upstate. While conceivably I could get started on Monday, I'm pretty sure that would knock me out of the running to be among the first 30.

Good luck at any brown trout who attempt this.

TimM
12-22-2005, 02:59 AM
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4. Must be willing to play ungodly hours on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day

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Could it be true? (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=4228173&an=0&page=1#Post 4230689)

pokergrader
12-22-2005, 07:09 AM
If I was a gold member, I could do this in 15-20k hands of 10/20 6max, which would be relatively simple to do in a week.

Sadly I am a lowly blue member for the time being and 3,000 miles from my poker computer and 2001FP. But next year when I am gold I will give it a shot...

whodaman
12-22-2005, 10:00 AM
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If I was a gold member, I could do this in 15-20k hands of 10/20 6max, which would be relatively simple to do in a week.

Sadly I am a lowly blue member for the time being and 3,000 miles from my poker computer and 2001FP. But next year when I am gold I will give it a shot...

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12-22-2005, 12:53 PM
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As soon as you have earned 25,000 Regular Party Points[/b]

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Doesn't matter if you're gold or blue...

augie00
12-22-2005, 01:05 PM
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As soon as you have earned 25,000 Regular Party Points[/b]

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Doesn't matter if you're gold or blue...

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Gold members earn REGULAR party points 2x as fast as blue members. It makes a world of difference. In fact, I feel confident saying that NO blue members will win a cruise, regardless of how many hands they play. There are just too many VIPers who are already gold who will just simply accumulate them faster.

Inthacup
12-22-2005, 01:08 PM
Do you think they will really limit it to 30? I wouldn't be surprised if there were no limit, but they say 30 to increase the competetive player interest.

Cup

debater
12-22-2005, 01:49 PM
I assure you PP will only do 30.

Last year I tried the 15k point promo for 10 people to be completed in 4 days. I hit 14,901...and was not offered a trip. (found out about the promo 12 hours after it started)

I played 15/30 BBJ mostly and some regular 15/30 tables. The people who won the trips like MicroBob (correct me if I am wrong MB) almost exclusively played the 10/20 SH games. If you want to win this then you have to play the largest SH games around. you will not be permitted much time at all for table selection.

How will that affect your win rate?
How much are you willing to lose in this pursuit?
Will you stop if you hit a $5K loss? $10K? ( I personally lost 10k in last years attempt. I was not good in tight games yet, and hit a bad run in the first 8 hours (-$5K)which affected my confidence for the remaining 50+ hours)
How will you feel if you are 31st.....and no trip?
Do you trust PP to take care of you in the event that things go awry in any way???
Do you have a buddy to help you?
How will you feel if that buddy loses your money? (mine lost $4k in 3 hours!)

Just a few things to ponder. From my perspective, last years attempt for me is the single worst experience of my Semi-Pro Gambling career (20+ years of Blackjack (mostly) Poker, Video Poker, Casino Whoring)

Debater

teddyFBI
12-22-2005, 02:03 PM
wow. thanks for the post. all of a sudden i'm not all that upset about not being able to compete.

teddyFBI
12-22-2005, 02:04 PM
by the way: WHEN IS THIS CRUISE? I couldn't find any info on it in the email or on PP.com

slavic
12-22-2005, 02:26 PM
Aren't they normally in March/April?

augie00
12-22-2005, 02:47 PM
Cup,

I do think they will limit it to 30. They know that the chances of someone with "blue" status (such as myself) has little to no chance of winning a cruise. I e-mailed party this morning in regards to their promotion and they had this to say:

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With regards to your email we understand that the offer this month will be very hard for some of our players to make but this is the decision that our marketing department have made.

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The VIP club bonuses are not entitlements but are a gift that you can choose whether to play or not.

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So I don't see them going above and beyond for what in their eyes is not an entitlement but a gift.

I tend to think that high volume players should be entitled to things, which is why I will take a lot of my play to PokerStars when they fire up their VIP program.

If I can live without my under the table RB, that is.

augie

MicroBob
12-22-2005, 08:49 PM
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by the way: WHEN IS THIS CRUISE? I couldn't find any info on it in the email or on PP.com

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the info is available somewhere on the website (don't feel like trying to find it myself right now).

I'm pretty sure it is Mar 12-19.

MicroBob
12-22-2005, 08:52 PM
Yeah...that really sucks.

Losing that much money AT the tables AND not making the cruise is the worst of both worlds.

You HAVE to have a stop-loss limit.
I got really lucky in that I got off to a hot-start so that kept me going.
If you drop a bit AND you're really really tired you are at risk to tilt like a mad-man and drop BB's left and right.

Plus, if you do this you have to be prepared for the possibility that you are going to play all those hours and come away completely empty.
When I did it last year I only thought I had a 20% chance of actally winning the cruise....I was comfortable with that...and obviously I was thrilled when I actually got it.


But it is a LOT of hours and hard-work for a strong chance that you might not get it at all. That's for sure.

Sniper
12-22-2005, 08:54 PM
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the info is available somewhere on the website (don't feel like trying to find it myself right now)....I'm pretty sure it is Mar 12-19.

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The MS Westerdam sets sail from Fort Lauderdale on March 12, 2006, docking in Mexico and the Cayman Islands before returning on March 19, 2006... Link (http://www.partypoker.com/news/partypoker_million/ppm5.htm)

12-22-2005, 10:05 PM
http://www.cardplayercruises.com/

TheMetetron
12-22-2005, 10:56 PM
Odds of them giving more than 30?

Even though I'm Blue, I could earn that many points in one week if I had to. It'd certainly be worth it to me.

Maybe I'll just do it anyways to get a crapload of hands in.

I got this email even though I didn't think I was in the VIP club yet. That is an extra complication.

I'm thinking of trying it anyways, even though I have no chance unless they offer more than 30.