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Entity
12-20-2005, 10:48 PM
Villain is relatively unknown. Seems a bit loose aggressive preflop so far.
Folded to me OTB. I raise A/images/graemlins/club.gifK/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. He 3-bets from the BB after SB folds. I cap. He calls.
Flop T/images/graemlins/spade.gif6/images/graemlins/spade.gif7/images/graemlins/spade.gif. He bets and I call.
Turn is the 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif. He bets and I raise.
Boring?
Drontier
12-20-2005, 11:54 PM
i think i just fold flop. i feel like spewing otherwise.
ClaytonN
12-20-2005, 11:56 PM
Flop call seems iffy, what are you trying to sell? High single spades raise that flop, as well as any high pair that doesn't have a spade. Any high cards w/ no spade are usually not calling, either. Unless you mix up your play to an extent, that's what I see?
The call on the flop and the raise on the turnlooks FOS tbh,
Entity
12-21-2005, 12:25 AM
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High single spades raise that flop, as well as any high pair that doesn't have a spade.
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I don't raise the flop nearly 100% with a high spade. I'd raise it with a flush or a pair+FD but not just a FD. I don't know whether he's able to recognize this or not.
I called the flop for bluff equity + small potential of best hand + small portion of outs. I know it's a bad situation for reverse implieds but I wasn't necessarily planning on showing down.
Alex/Mugaaz
12-21-2005, 01:18 AM
This is just too fancy to be +ev imho.
StellarWind
12-21-2005, 01:21 AM
I'm a boring person. I take a card here and fold the turn.
If you want to play on then clearly the turn raise is better than calling down. The 5-flush chop draw ensures that he has a lot of outs. Folding to the turn raise is a Sklansky mistake irrespective of his cards but I doubt he realizes that.
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Folding to the turn raise is a Sklansky mistake irrespective of his cards but I doubt he realizes that.
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do you mean a FTOP mistake or something else?
StellarWind
12-21-2005, 02:43 AM
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Folding to the turn raise is a Sklansky mistake irrespective of his cards but I doubt he realizes that.
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do you mean a FTOP mistake or something else?
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FTOP.
Danenania
12-21-2005, 08:21 AM
I like it. His flop lead spells weakness to me.
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I like it. His flop lead spells weakness to me.
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"I dont want to give a freecard, since if another spade comes, I lose "
dave44
12-21-2005, 09:31 PM
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I like it. His flop lead spells weakness to me.
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I don't really understand this. If he has a pair on the flop, there is really nothing to make leading more appealing than check-raising. Some players have their tendencies, but before I can notice them I tend to treat leads and check-raises the same.
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