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slim
12-20-2005, 05:02 PM
how much do u make playing online poker per year? at what stakes do u do this?
what about you losers....how much do you lose per year?

12-20-2005, 05:12 PM
well i make about 110/hour 10 tabling continous in the 55's. but i also do cash. i play about 20 hours a week about.... maybe less. so do the math if u care.

punter11235
12-20-2005, 05:14 PM
If I am to choose one question which can generate the most noise (random text without any valuable information) it would probably be that. Most pros wont tell you. Many random guys will lie. Some other will tell the truth but you never know which is the case .
Better idea is to make a poll and hope that ppl will not lie when anonymous (cause there is no joy).

12-20-2005, 05:30 PM
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what about you losers....how much do you lose per year?

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I don't expect to see many (any) answers to this question here...

slim
12-20-2005, 05:34 PM
I only ask to see what kind of responses I get. I'm sure most people who reply "i make 100+ per year etc" are extrapolating their biggest win multiplied by 365 days and neglecting all their losses.....so I take their responses with a huge grain of salt. There are a few posters , though,that I would absolutely believe make huge money.....mainly the guys who post good, intelligent responses to other people's "how to play this hand" questions.

Tk79
12-20-2005, 05:34 PM
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what about you losers....how much do you lose per year?

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I don't expect to see many (any) answers to this question here...

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I lost $8.12 yesterday 6-8 tableing the 3/6 full. -$2.11/hr.

OUCH.

12-20-2005, 05:42 PM
I stared 8-tabling the 25NL 6max on Party in October. I had played live quite a bit before that, but this was my first adventure into online poker. I have made $1,700 in the 3 months. That was over about 75,000 hands so about 4.5 bb/100.

I will be moving up in stakes in the new year, going to 50NL and 100NL. I am looking forward to have a full year of results to be able to analyze next fall. Hope this provides some accurate information.

12-20-2005, 05:47 PM
I won 3 hands simultaneously today at 1/2 limit and netted a total profit of $38. The hands took about 60 seconds real time total start to finish.

$38 per min * 60 min/hr * 40 hours/wk * 52 wk/yr = $4,742,400 per year I make playing poker.

I'm a good player.

FishNChips
12-20-2005, 05:58 PM
Dear Scorcho,

Congratulations on your fantastic win rate. Do you need a driver? Perhaps an errand boy? I can be hired for < 250k/year.

Dear OP:

I play 3/6, about 15 - 25hrs/wk depending on the week. I win about 1.5BB/100 (over 100k hands). I get rakeback. You do the math.

~FishNChips

RikaKazak
12-20-2005, 06:13 PM
Proud to report that with the awesome December I'm having going to break 200K. Right now I have moved up and only playing NL 1,000.

RikaKazak
12-20-2005, 06:18 PM
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If I am to choose one question which can generate the most noise (random text without any valuable information) it would probably be that. Most pros wont tell you. Many random guys will lie. Some other will tell the truth but you never know which is the case .
Better idea is to make a poll and hope that ppl will not lie when anonymous (cause there is no joy).

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I think some "pros" and people will tell the truth. I consider myself a pro and I A.) told B.) told the truth.

I don't get why everyone keeps it a big secret, me and my poker buddies tell eachother all the time. How much we're making is like our score card and we're SUPER competitive. When one of my buudies is over 40K for the month on the 20th it inspires me to put in tons more hours for the month.

RikaKazak
12-20-2005, 06:19 PM
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I only ask to see what kind of responses I get. I'm sure most people who reply "i make 100+ per year etc" are extrapolating their biggest win multiplied by 365 days and neglecting all their losses.....so I take their responses with a huge grain of salt. There are a few posters , though,that I would absolutely believe make huge money.....mainly the guys who post good, intelligent responses to other people's "how to play this hand" questions.

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crud I put over 200K /images/graemlins/frown.gif no one is going to believe me /images/graemlins/frown.gif SOOOOOO SAD!!!! LOLOLOL

Tzak
12-20-2005, 06:22 PM
I made over 200 grand but never make an intellegent post.Tzak.

usmfan
12-20-2005, 06:46 PM
ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!!!!

Reef
12-20-2005, 07:03 PM
I was at 10BB/100 in NL50 6-max awhile back. But now I play NL200. You do the math.

MikeSmith
12-20-2005, 07:19 PM
most people will put im not a losing player....im uhhhhhh a about even maybe a little below. make the poll

Timer
12-20-2005, 08:12 PM
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I don't get why everyone keeps it a big secret, me and my poker buddies tell eachother all the time. How much we're making is like our score card and we're SUPER competitive. When one of my buudies is over 40K for the month on the 20th it inspires me to put in tons more hours for the month.


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I know some damn good players and not one of them has ever come CLOSE to making 40K in a month.

Take what you read with a very BIG grain of salt.

POKhER
12-20-2005, 08:17 PM
One Hundred BILLION DOLLARS.

TheMetetron
12-20-2005, 08:21 PM
I am a long term > 2 BB/100 winner at $10/20 6max with 8-10 tables at once. So....

Let's see 20 hrs a week x 700-800 hands per hour is 14-16k hands per week, 60k hands per month, 1200 BB per month, $24,000 per month, plus rakeback ($4k per month).

So I make about $330,000 per year from poker if I worked full-time. In actuality, I take vacations, take some weeks easy, but also play some higher levels to slightly offset this. All-in-all, I'd say I make $250,000 per year and somewhere around $250-300 per hour. This doesn't include money from coaching / affiliate or whatever other extra stuff I do.

Also, this is an estimated earn, since my actual earn from this year (from poker) is below what I should be earning next year (I went pro later in the year, played smaller limits for part of it, took a lot of vacation, etc). If you want to know what I earned this year, it was about $150,000.

Let's continue with the dick waving contest...

1C5
12-20-2005, 08:22 PM
Forget my stats, just do the math.

Matt24
12-20-2005, 08:34 PM
I'm at 95k gross right now w/ near 7k in expenses. I played mainly 3/6-5/10 forever and made a decent deal with rakeback/propping. I dropped over $10k at the Indiana WSOP Circuit. I've worked 1770 online hours. $53 an hour or so, I suck. I just moved to multi-tabling 15/30 full.

luckily I live in south central Indiana in a small town and 88k is huge around here. My goal for 2006 is 150k

JackOfSpeed
12-20-2005, 08:45 PM
I suk bigtime -- made $20K this year /images/graemlins/frown.gif

I am the poker middle-class

johnnymac
12-20-2005, 08:55 PM
Including RB and bonuses I have made about $25k this year, part time until the end of august, full time after. However I have a massive (non-poker) dick, so I don't care!!!

Joe

roundest
12-20-2005, 08:57 PM
Enough.

JackOfSpeed
12-20-2005, 09:18 PM
Actually I guess me making 20k a year makes me a member of the Poker Proletariat, rather than the Middle Class. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

NateDog
12-20-2005, 09:41 PM
$7 this year, but I'm all in with 33 so ......

Dammit, runner runner, I'am now at $0.00.

Guthrie
12-20-2005, 10:33 PM
10.5 inches

GMan42
12-20-2005, 10:42 PM
For what it's worth, about $17K this year making 2BB/100-ish at 1/2 and 2/4 with some liberal bonus whoring thrown in (actually bonuses probably made up 2/3 of that total). Hoping to grow the bankroll and the cajones for higher levels in early '06.

Unabridged
12-20-2005, 10:47 PM
about $15 an hour

RikaKazak
12-20-2005, 11:18 PM
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I don't get why everyone keeps it a big secret, me and my poker buddies tell eachother all the time. How much we're making is like our score card and we're SUPER competitive. When one of my buudies is over 40K for the month on the 20th it inspires me to put in tons more hours for the month.


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I know some damn good players and not one of them has ever come CLOSE to making 40K in a month.

Take what you read with a very BIG grain of salt.

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Dude, you have NO IDEA what you're talking about. One of my buddies is up 53K this month so far, he plays 25/50 NL so that's less than 11 buy ins.

And for your information, I'm at 23K so far this month. Once I get good at 6 tabling 5/10 on party I expect to break 40K on my good months.

ncboiler
12-20-2005, 11:30 PM
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what about you losers....how much do you lose per year?

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No one ever loses

ncboiler
12-20-2005, 11:36 PM
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There are a few posters , though,that I would absolutely believe make huge money.....mainly the guys who post good, intelligent responses to other people's "how to play this hand" questions.

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There are many people that post better than they play.

ncboiler
12-20-2005, 11:38 PM
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I stared 8-tabling the 25NL 6max on Party in October. I had played live quite a bit before that, but this was my first adventure into online poker. I have made $1,700 in the 3 months. That was over about 75,000 hands so about 4.5 bb/100.

I will be moving up in stakes in the new year, going to 50NL and 100NL. I am looking forward to have a full year of results to be able to analyze next fall. Hope this provides some accurate information.

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Me Tarzan

12-20-2005, 11:42 PM
Ya no one loses here.

LMFAO!

TheMetetron
12-21-2005, 12:08 AM
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I don't get why everyone keeps it a big secret, me and my poker buddies tell eachother all the time. How much we're making is like our score card and we're SUPER competitive. When one of my buudies is over 40K for the month on the 20th it inspires me to put in tons more hours for the month.


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I know some damn good players and not one of them has ever come CLOSE to making 40K in a month.

Take what you read with a very BIG grain of salt.

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Dude, you have NO IDEA what you're talking about. One of my buddies is up 53K this month so far, he plays 25/50 NL so that's less than 11 buy ins.

And for your information, I'm at 23K so far this month. Once I get good at 6 tabling 5/10 on party I expect to break 40K on my good months.

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If you break 40k consistently playing 5/10 on 6 tables, I will blow you. This can only be possible playing an insane number of hours (well over 60/week).

Why would anyone want to live like that?

12-21-2005, 12:51 AM
I'm a small-timer and have only been at it about 3 months off and on... 3200 profit multi-tabling micro-limits including all bonuses....

Reef
12-21-2005, 12:53 AM
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Ya no one loses here.

LMFAO!

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if you lost, would you post in a thread like this?

Allinlife
12-21-2005, 12:54 AM
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I don't get why everyone keeps it a big secret, me and my poker buddies tell eachother all the time. How much we're making is like our score card and we're SUPER competitive. When one of my buudies is over 40K for the month on the 20th it inspires me to put in tons more hours for the month.


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I know some damn good players and not one of them has ever come CLOSE to making 40K in a month.

Take what you read with a very BIG grain of salt.

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Dude, you have NO IDEA what you're talking about. One of my buddies is up 53K this month so far, he plays 25/50 NL so that's less than 11 buy ins.

And for your information, I'm at 23K so far this month. Once I get good at 6 tabling 5/10 on party I expect to break 40K on my good months.

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If you break 40k consistently playing 5/10 on 6 tables, I will blow you. This can only be possible playing an insane number of hours (well over 60/week).

Why would anyone want to live like that?

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more like 25 hours/week with solid 5ptbb/100 winrate

SwordFish
12-21-2005, 02:38 AM
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If you break 40k consistently playing 5/10 on 6 tables, I will blow you. This can only be possible playing an insane number of hours (well over 60/week).

Why would anyone want to live like that?

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If Rika was talking about Limit then you would be correct.

However, he is talking about 5/10 NL (1000NL) on 6 tables.
This is quite possible with a decent winrate.

SF

Jim Kuhn
12-21-2005, 02:44 AM
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I don't get why everyone keeps it a big secret, me and my poker buddies tell eachother all the time. How much we're making is like our score card and we're SUPER competitive. When one of my buudies is over 40K for the month on the 20th it inspires me to put in tons more hours for the month.




I know some damn good players and not one of them has ever come CLOSE to making 40K in a month.

Take what you read with a very BIG grain of salt.




Dude, you have NO IDEA what you're talking about. One of my buddies is up 53K this month so far, he plays 25/50 NL so that's less than 11 buy ins.

And for your information, I'm at 23K so far this month. Once I get good at 6 tabling 5/10 on party I expect to break 40K on my good months.

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I didn't know we were including play money results! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

TheMetetron
12-21-2005, 03:50 AM
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If you break 40k consistently playing 5/10 on 6 tables, I will blow you. This can only be possible playing an insane number of hours (well over 60/week).

Why would anyone want to live like that?

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If Rika was talking about Limit then you would be correct.

However, he is talking about 5/10 NL (1000NL) on 6 tables.
This is quite possible with a decent winrate.

SF

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Eh, then say NL bastards. This has also confirmed my belief that I need to start adding some 2000 NL tables to my mix.

12-21-2005, 03:59 AM
4.3 billion

12-21-2005, 04:15 AM
I LOSE MILLIONS

DocMartin
12-21-2005, 04:21 AM
bout $70/hr at LHE 3/6 to 8/16 short and full and occasional tourneys. and i crank out an insane number of hours. like 40-50hrs or so. a month.

12-21-2005, 04:56 AM
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what about you losers....how much do you lose per year?

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$0.73

I started 2 weeks ago on the $0.02/0.04 on Stars. I'm running hot now though!!!

Ian

goodguy_1
12-21-2005, 05:10 AM
$82K this year.

Next year my goals range from a baseline $72K to $144K.

I played about 1 1/2 years of fulltime B&M poker in AC back in 1995/1996 but I only got in about 1600 hours a year each year. Returned to poker after burning out from trading equities in late 2002. This is my 3rd full year of online poker and about 4 1/2 years into playing professionally both B&M and online.

My first 3 years I only made about $40K a year,last year $55K and this year $82K. I think its taken my 4 years just to become a decent player..some kids do that in 6 months or a year.. but these kids are the exception not the rule ..even thu there are many of them on 2+2... I'm very jealous of the quick studies..but I'm happy with my progress. I seem to be increasing my poker income about 25-30% a year.

So expectations for 2006 are $72K-$144K with a realistic median goal of about $108K. I like to have a wide range of expectations becuase it just more realistic..and takes the pressure off.

I play mostly 6MAX NLHE- $100,$200 and $400 and LHE-$3-6-$5-10 and some PLO. I've pretty much stopped playing anything but cash games..Hopefully by early 2006 I'll be playing all $5-10 LHE 6MAX and all $200 NLHE 6MAX..and by the end of 2006 playing all $10-20 LHE 6MAX and $200/$400/$600 NLHE 6MAX.

I am humble grinder with realistic expectations and I love to play.

2+2 is such a great resource. It's definetly helped thnx guys.

12-21-2005, 03:23 PM
I am up $961.34 through December 21.

Riverman
12-21-2005, 03:34 PM
Slim, I see you are from Canada. I make 48 bucks a day, or 3,678 canadian.

Baulucky
12-21-2005, 03:35 PM
48 Megatons per year.

12-21-2005, 03:46 PM
Im up about $3000, by playing for about 30 hours a week every week.







Ship it batches, holla. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

12-21-2005, 04:16 PM
I am only surviving because of bonus, but PokerPlex took $50 bonus back which is a big chunk of my earning this month. You do the math /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

obsidian
12-21-2005, 04:20 PM
Any reason you aren't trying to move up?

12-21-2005, 04:20 PM
I'll be honest, I lost 34K this year and last year I dropped 53,500. I play 10-20 online, 4-6 tabling. Am I the only losing player here? Seriously?

Drac
12-21-2005, 04:34 PM
$800/year playing
$1,000/year bonii
150 - 200 hours/year playing recreational poker
Mix of $25 NL, 2/4 Limit, $5 and $10 SNG's, PLO, PLO/8.

Wes ManTooth
12-21-2005, 04:37 PM
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I'll be honest, I lost 34K this year and last year I dropped 53,500. I play 10-20 online, 4-6 tabling. Am I the only losing player here? Seriously?

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few people that lose this much either dont know it or dont keep this close attention to how much they are losing. I am surprised how close you follow how much you are losing. Thats good that at least you are aware of this.

TheMetetron
12-21-2005, 04:57 PM
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Any reason you aren't trying to move up?

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Because I had a crapload of debt to payoff this year that I just finished dealing with. My bankroll is only $30,000. Despite the fact I earned $150k, I've only been able to put $8k in my 401k due to lack of saving the first 6 months of this year, as well as the aforementioned debt.

Party $30/60 is on my list for this year, but I want my bankroll to be $60,000 before I mess with it.

PokerBob
12-21-2005, 05:09 PM
i am a pro. i make enough to live. talking about dollar amounts is dumb. i have a nice penis.

12-21-2005, 05:15 PM
Yes I keep track, I havnt had a winning year since 2002, seriously. 2006 will be my last if I dont improve. Thanks for the compliment though.

12-21-2005, 05:27 PM
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Yes I keep track, I havnt had a winning year since 2002, seriously. 2006 will be my last if I dont improve. Thanks for the compliment though.

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About 4500BB slide over two years? And lose for 4 years in a row? Seriously, If I were you, I have quited a year ago already.

12-21-2005, 05:44 PM
pssh...lightweights.

I have made $261.00 in the last three weeks single tabling the Party .50/1.00 games in the beginners area. That includes a 28th place finish in the new player freeroll that netted me $30.00 (yeah, you heard me, $30.00 - I'm waiting on my 28th place trophy) and $150.00 instant bankroll bonus.

I'm not lying either - I AM up $261 and change.

Oh yeah, and I haven't heard any complaints on my penis.

solucky
12-21-2005, 05:45 PM
Why not move down in limits. Around 12 K with 0,5/1 and PL NL 25 including Bonus.

IndieMatty
12-21-2005, 05:49 PM
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i am a not a pro. i make enough to live times three. talking about dollar amounts is dumb. i don't want to hear about pokerbobs penis /images/graemlins/frown.gif.

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FYP4M


(fixed your post for me)

lighterjobs
12-21-2005, 05:52 PM
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One Hundred BILLION DOLLARS.

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http://www.ctgilles.net/images/pictars/dr.evil_one_miliion_dollars.jpg

RikaKazak
12-21-2005, 07:54 PM
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If you break 40k consistently playing 5/10 on 6 tables, I will blow you. This can only be possible playing an insane number of hours (well over 60/week).

Why would anyone want to live like that?

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If Rika was talking about Limit then you would be correct.

However, he is talking about 5/10 NL (1000NL) on 6 tables.
This is quite possible with a decent winrate.

SF

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Thanks man,

I'm TALKING ABOUT NL!

RikaKazak
12-21-2005, 08:00 PM
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I don't get why everyone keeps it a big secret, me and my poker buddies tell eachother all the time. How much we're making is like our score card and we're SUPER competitive. When one of my buudies is over 40K for the month on the 20th it inspires me to put in tons more hours for the month.


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I know some damn good players and not one of them has ever come CLOSE to making 40K in a month.

Take what you read with a very BIG grain of salt.

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Dude, you have NO IDEA what you're talking about. One of my buddies is up 53K this month so far, he plays 25/50 NL so that's less than 11 buy ins.

And for your information, I'm at 23K so far this month. Once I get good at 6 tabling 5/10 on party I expect to break 40K on my good months.

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If you break 40k consistently playing 5/10 on 6 tables, I will blow you. This can only be possible playing an insane number of hours (well over 60/week).

Why would anyone want to live like that?

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more like 25 hours/week with solid 5ptbb/100 winrate

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Looks like someone is going to owe me a [censored]. I prefer one while working and please watch the teeth. I'm at 24K for this month. Give me say till july and I expect to break 40K at least in one of those months.

I'ts 5/10 NL just so you know, try not to jump on people so easily.

GoblinMason (Craig)
12-21-2005, 08:38 PM
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10.5 inches

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11 inches.

Epeen: HUUUUGE

12-22-2005, 11:01 AM
I started playing low limit SnGs recreationally with $150 last February, after playing with play money for about 2-3 months. I am now up to a grand total of ~$3000, although I don't keep my casino winnings in my bankroll, so my online roll only has about $2500. I keep records of all my sessions, so I know these are the right numbers. I only usually make about $200-$400 a month by mainly 1-tabling or sometimes 2-tabling the $22s and $11s, except for this month I made a lot from winning a 180 $22 SnG on Stars for $1080 (I owe a lot of thanks to this forum for that by the way). You guys may think I suck, but I am proud of myself. I should probably play more limit ring, because the money seems to grow faster for me that way, but I love SnGs and MTTs. The thing is, being ahead $3000 for a hobby is pretty nice. Any other hobby would of cost me at least that much by now. This year, I plan to make enough to enter the $10,000,000 tourney with Phil Ivey /images/graemlins/wink.gif

BTW, I am an idiot with no rakeback deal, and I never bonus whore at all. I guess I should at least get rakeback, huh?!?!

Sand
12-22-2005, 03:46 PM
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Any reason you aren't trying to move up?

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I do about as well as Metetron. :dripping sarcasm:

I gotta say though I love seeing you posting - your avatar is absolutely smokin'. Any more of her around?

12-22-2005, 05:02 PM
I make about 150 big bets a month.

LetYouDown
12-22-2005, 05:11 PM
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I'll be honest, I lost 34K this year and last year I dropped 53,500. I play 10-20 online, 4-6 tabling. Am I the only losing player here? Seriously?

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Umm...at the very least I hope you're talking about no limit. Either way, why the hell aren't you either quitting entirely or dropping to microlimits?

bwana devil
12-22-2005, 06:41 PM
im down around $25,000 this year and finally realize im not very good. if you see me on UB my screen name is "manhatma" so say hi.

bwana

bwana devil
12-22-2005, 06:41 PM
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if you see me on UB my screen name is "manhatma" so say hi.

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just kidding.

Mempho
12-22-2005, 07:46 PM
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ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!!!!

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hahahahaha

Mempho
12-22-2005, 07:48 PM
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I suk bigtime -- made $20K this year /images/graemlins/frown.gif

I am the poker middle-class

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Hello, my fellow middle classer....may the proletarian rise up...meeting tonight at the fort...password...derb

jman220
12-22-2005, 08:03 PM
I'm on track to make about 15k this year from casinowhoring, bonuswhoring, and small stakes poker. I only play very part time (I'm a law student). Nearly 4k of that 15k was from initial deposit bonus casino-whoring/ really positive variance playing blackjack/pontoon (clearing bonuses). 1k of that was a big cash I made in a live tourney in AC (1.1k). Some of it is also profits from the 1/2 nl game in AC when I when I went on vacation about 4 times this year. (Also about 1k). The rest is from $100 nl 6 max, bonuses, some 1/2-3/6 limit, and a poker game that I don't tell people about because it would kill the softness of the game.

cnfuzzd
12-22-2005, 08:30 PM
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how much do u make playing online poker per year? at what stakes do u do this?
what about you losers....how much do you lose per year?

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from what i gather, its pretty clear that at the very least i make more than you.

peace

john nickle

Mr_J
12-22-2005, 09:52 PM
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You do the math.

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A bit hard when you don't tell us how many tables you play.

Unless you mean 100k hands/yr, I just assumed that was your sample.

MS Sunshine
12-23-2005, 12:27 AM
I am (a) humble grinder with realistic expectations and I love to play."

All those with aspirations to be a internet poker pro, this statement should be part of your new belief system. This separates those that will still be here in five years from those that will not. What someone made this year has very little to do with online longevity. Many, many, many players with more skill than goodguy are now gone from several years ago. They played too high for their BR, played too high for their skill level eventually, or got tired of the grind after a year or two.

As to the tread's question, I don't know exactly yet. Not tax time yet. My ex-wife and I made $70K in the first 4 months then chopped the BR in half. Since then I have made somewhere in the $50-70K range. Even though I rarely play live, and have a strong dislike for it, I made $17K with three final tables out of eight plays.

I play NLH cash($400-2000), $200 S&G's and some of the bigger buyin MTT online. I struggle to play at the skill level needed to be a winning player. I work real hard and take every edge I can to get a mismatched game. I run from anything close to a fair fight. I haven't had a losing month in over two years.

Oh, I love poker.

MS Sunshine

ps. Sorry, goodguy, the third "many" was just for yuks.

12-23-2005, 01:04 AM
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what about you losers....how much do you lose per year?

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$0.73

I started 2 weeks ago on the $0.02/0.04 on Stars. I'm running hot now though!!!

Ian

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Don't worry, you'll bounce back. Probably just variance.

12-23-2005, 01:09 AM
Started playing years ago on Paradise and dropped $1600 in a couple months.

Started up again early this year and spent several months grinding $50 up to $600 playing SNGs.

Am now up over $10k in the last few months between bonus whoring and multitabling $2/4 and $3/6.

slim
12-23-2005, 11:16 AM
if it makes you feel better saying that, then good on you.

alpine0000
12-24-2005, 02:47 AM
i can see nobody here answers this question seriously. i will. here is my poker tracker database that covers my hand historys since july of 2005. so i guess we are talking about 6 months of play. i wish my computer didnt crash over the summer that held all of my hand historys for the past 2 years. i think i had over a million hands logged before it crashed and i lost everything.

anyways, i play mostly 5/10 and 10/20 with a little bit of 15/30 mixed in. if i come home drunk and feel i HAVE to play, i will sometimes play 3/6 or 25nl.

oh yea, i ONLY play 6max games. also, ive made about $8,000 in rakeback since july too. so, with rakeback, figure i make ROUGHLY $54k online before taxes. i also play live games in AC and vegas too. also, the occasional home game. anyways, thats my honest answer, id love to see how others are doing!

http://www.williamesmith.com/pte.jpg

chisness
12-24-2005, 06:00 AM
why only 6 max?

alpine0000
12-24-2005, 08:10 PM
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why only 6 max?

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i feel i play a better 6max game than full. also, from my experience, there are worse players there as i find that most people cant play as well short handed as they do at a full game. they either over value hands (for example calling down with A high every time), or under value and play too tight.

heres a line i have heard more than 1 bad player say: "Id rather play 6max then 10 person tables cause my chances of winning each pot is better. i only have 5 people to beat instead of 9". hahah, that statement is just absurd, but i find many bad players believe this.

i also find i get in more hands per hour at a 6max then a full, so i think thats better for rakeback as well. although, this isnt the reason i play 6max only.

chisness
12-24-2005, 08:15 PM
I see. One negative I see is that it's tougher to multitable and you'd probably have to play fewer short games than full. How many short games can you comfortably play?

ebaudry
12-25-2005, 02:55 AM
I'll actually be posting my last 6 months data here pretty soon. Ballpark, i've made about $1,200-$2,200 each month of mostly 4-tabling $33 in sets at Party. I play 350-550 a month. I don't have RB. My one losing month was spent 6-tabling continuously which i apparently wasn't ready for, that month i lost ~$500 over about 500 STT. I haven't calculated out my "life observed ROI" but i would presume its 8-10% or so. I play about 20 tournes on the days i play poker, about 20-25 days a month.

Hope this helps. All true, not leaving anything out. Please PM me if want more details.

LLKOOLK1
12-25-2005, 04:18 AM
I dont understand how the forum gains anything from a moderator posting comments such as this? I just dont get it...whatever you need to do or say to people to help you feel better about yourself...
-LL