($22) 5 handed UTG with 66

[45suited]

CO was a tricky, aggressive player. BB was loose and bad. I hated folding this, but I couldn't see raising less than all-in. Stack sizes played a huge part in this fold. Flame away. If you agree with the fold, what's the lowest pair you push here?

I should add that I had pushed about 4 times already in order to build up my stack.


UTG (HERO) ( $2075 )
CO ( $1700 )
Button ( $1460 )
SB ( $1885 )
BB ( $880 )

Blinds(100/200)

Dealt to HERO [ 6d 6s ]

HERO folds
CO is all-In [1700]
Button folds.
SB folds.
BB folds.
CO does not show cards.
CO wins 2000 chips

[pergesu]

That's fine...I probably push nines and up. But my UTG ICM sucks so I'm gonna wait for Tigerite to come correct me /images/graemlins/smile.gif Of course it depends entirely on what range of hands these guys will call with.

[45suited]

I was thinking 88+, but I'm glad to see that you'd fold 66 like I did.

I was going to name this post, 'Tigerite, please help!'. He's the man with this [censored].

i wouldn't worry about that too much. that's probably just on the borderline of what i'd push with there... i dunno 88+?

Also, your stack is in fine shape to fight another day... errr hand.

[xJMPx]

When I looked at this hand, I thought fold for sure. But now that I’ve put it in SNGPT, it’s a lot closer.

Even if all four players have a loose calling range (44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+) this is +0.6% EV.

More realistically, the BB will be loose here (lets say 22+,A2+,K7s+,KTo+) and the rest will be much tighter (88+,ATs+,AJo+,KQ) which makes it +0.7 EV.

Thoughts on my ranges?

[Bill Poker]

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More realistically, the BB will be loose here (lets say 22+,A2+,K7s+,KTo+) and the rest will be much tighter (88+,ATs+,AJo+,KQ) which makes it +0.7 EV.

Thoughts on my ranges?

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I would say the range for the rest is much tighter: TT+/AQ+. at least I would not call a push from UTG with 88/AT/KQ

[45suited]

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More realistically, the BB will be loose here (lets say 22+,A2+,K7s+,KTo+) and the rest will be much tighter (88+,ATs+,AJo+,KQ) which makes it +0.7 EV.

Thoughts on my ranges?

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I would say the range for the rest is much tighter: TT+/AQ+. at least I would not call a push from UTG with 88/AT/KQ

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I don't think that the typical player on the 22s has calling standards anywhere near this tight.

[xJMPx]

You may be right. It can be very hard to tell in the 22s, I tend to err on the side of looseness when using SNGPT for the 22s.

If they are in fact, TT+/AQ+ the EV is 1.3%.

[Bill Poker]

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More realistically, the BB will be loose here (lets say 22+,A2+,K7s+,KTo+) and the rest will be much tighter (88+,ATs+,AJo+,KQ) which makes it +0.7 EV.

Thoughts on my ranges?

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I would say the range for the rest is much tighter: TT+/AQ+. at least I would not call a push from UTG with 88/AT/KQ

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I don't think that the typical player on the 22s has calling standards anywhere near this tight.

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look at the push range mentioned above, UTG's push range (a UTG with 10BB) is 99+/AJ+. TT is a marginal calling hand here, unless you have a read.

[45suited]

i'm not saying that they be correct in calling, only that they will be looser than your parameters, imo

[Bill Poker]

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i'm not saying that they be correct in calling, only that they will be looser than your parameters, imo

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you are right......