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12-20-2005, 11:37 AM

NL 50 on party

opp is 38/13/2, new to the table, maybe first hand

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP ($40)
Hero ($102.68)
SB ($28.90)
BB ($89.40)
UTG ($56.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif. MP posts a blind of $0.50. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, MP (poster) raises to $1.5, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, MP calls $3.

Flop: ($10.75) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $6, MP calls $6.

Turn: ($22.75) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $15, MP calls $29 (All-In), Hero calls $14.

River: ($80.75) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $80.75

result in white : he had 99 

also new at this other table, opp is 66/22/1.5(but agg factor 9 on riv)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

CO ($39.01)
Hero ($60)
SB ($48.55)
BB ($50.45)
UTG ($52.80)
MP ($33.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, CO calls $3.

Flop: ($10.75) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
CO bets $8, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($26.75) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
CO calls $26.01 (All-In), Hero calls $26.01.

River: ($78.77) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $78.77

result in white : he had 22 

anything wrong with these hands?

GrunchCan

12-20-2005, 11:51 AM

Hand 1: That's poker.

Hand 2: Too passive. Make it $7 preflop. As played, push the flop. (You are actually putting him all-in.)

12-20-2005, 11:58 AM

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Hand 1: That's poker.

Hand 2: Too passive. Make it $7 preflop. As played, push the flop. (You are actually putting him all-in.)

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why 7 with him ? because he's a lag? i thought the board looked safe enough and i wanted to keep him betting his Q or bluff himself to death, he seemed to be that kind of maniac.

GrunchCan

12-20-2005, 12:00 PM

7 is a pot-sized raise. This is a value bet. If he calls 5, he calls 7.

You said he was new to the table. How manny hands are your stats over?

12-20-2005, 12:01 PM

Hand 1: Looks ok to me. If he has jj-kk your in great shape. You're paying off a set here.

Hand 2: I agree with the above poster, re-raise more preflop. I'd probably have made it 8. I just read the results... If he's willing to play that hand that way, then reload and keep playing because the money is coming back to you sooner or later.

12-20-2005, 12:07 PM

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7 is a pot-sized raise. This is a value bet. If he calls 5, he calls 7.

You said he was new to the table. How manny hands are your stats over?

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he had about 20 hands at the time. this was just a few hands before that

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP ($41.91)
Hero ($74.50)
SB ($39)
BB ($50.45)
UTG ($47.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, MP raises to $2, Hero calls $2, 2 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
MP bets $0.75, Hero raises to $4, MP calls $3.25.

Turn: ($12.75) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks.

River: ($12.75) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP bets $8, Hero calls $8.

Final Pot: $28.75

he had AK...

i think this made me play the AA like i did.

12-20-2005, 12:08 PM

One thing wrong is there are no results in white!

Other than that I'd re-raise a little more pre-flop. Make it $5 to call. I'm not sure I play AA really well after the flop, so I don't like to give anybody good odds. Having said that, here's what I would have done post-flop:-

Hand 1 - Raise more on the flop. You want to get value out of another big pair.

Hand 2 I'd probably push the flop.

12-20-2005, 12:11 PM

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One thing wrong is there are no results in white!

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it's in the same line, not under.

tripp0807

12-20-2005, 12:12 PM

Hand one was played fine, but the flop bet was a little weak.

Hand two: I hope you reloaded, put him on your buddy list, and sent a PM to your friend Freerollin' with his screen name.

GrunchCan

12-20-2005, 12:14 PM

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he had about 20 hands at the time

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Your stats are worthless. If anything, they are dangerous. They do not bear any resemblance to the opponent's actual game in any way whatsoever.

If you're going to semibluff this hand, you need to make a pot-sized raise. Which means making it ~$7.50 to go on the flop, not $4 like you did.

12-20-2005, 12:24 PM

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he had about 20 hands at the time

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Your stats are worthless. If anything, they are dangerous. They do not bear any resemblance to the opponent's actual game in any way whatsoever.

If you're going to semibluff this hand, you need to make a pot-sized raise. Which means making it ~$7.50 to go on the flop, not $4 like you did.

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he called with AK earlier and you saw what he was betting here on the flop, i knew it was bs or a Q so he would have probably folded to an all in. if he was overestimating his hand i didn't want to tell him i had an overpair. i also didn't think he'd catch a 4% on the turn. though i should have probably expected it, i had just lost a huge pot with an all in on the flop with set and some fish getting his KK set on the river. not my day...

and btw the maniac's name is CookiEMnstor, get him while he's hot /images/graemlins/mad.gif

GrunchCan

12-20-2005, 12:28 PM

Why do you say this opponent is a maniac?

12-20-2005, 12:33 PM

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Why do you say this opponent is a maniac?

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66/22 pf, raising 22, betting the flop with it vs reraiser, call big raises with AK high, i also saw him bluff missed draws and had a 9 agg factor on the river... plus i [censored] hate him /images/graemlins/mad.gif

Maulik

12-20-2005, 12:36 PM

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NL 50 on party

opp is 38/13/2, new to the table, maybe first hand

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP ($40)
Hero ($102.68)
SB ($28.90)
BB ($89.40)
UTG ($56.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif. MP posts a blind of $0.50. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, MP (poster) raises to $1.5, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, MP calls $3.

Flop: ($10.75) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $6, MP calls $6.

Turn: ($22.75) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $15, MP calls $29 (All-In), Hero calls $14.

River: ($80.75) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $80.75

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Pot the flop

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also new at this other table, opp is 66/22/1.5(but agg factor 9 on riv)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

CO ($39.01)
Hero ($60)
SB ($48.55)
BB ($50.45)
UTG ($52.80)
MP ($33.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, CO calls $3.

Flop: ($10.75) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
CO bets $8, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($26.75) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
CO calls $26.01 (All-In), Hero calls $26.01.

River: ($78.77) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $78.77

result in white : he had 22 

anything wrong with these hands?

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PF raise to $6 or $8 on this one. Everything else looks fine.

EMcWilliams

12-20-2005, 12:42 PM

Other than the nit picking of the PFR, the AA hands looked right and hell, even the AQ hand. Hes a cash cow. Exploit his sorry ass.

Maulik

12-20-2005, 12:44 PM

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Other than the nit picking of the PFR, the AA hands looked right and hell, even the AQ hand. Hes a cash cow. Exploit his sorry ass.

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If you're going to pay off a set w/ AA, fine. No argument but you've got to build the pot for the times when the sets miss. It's poker over the thousands of times you've been dealt AA, KK, QQ, JJ, etc.

Redunancy is important when you see the same problems PF; hell I've made more than my fair share, but I don't think that extra value is nit picking what so ever.

12-20-2005, 12:48 PM

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One thing wrong is there are no results in white!

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it's in the same line, not under.

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My bad! /images/graemlins/blush.gif

12-20-2005, 12:49 PM

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Other than the nit picking of the PFR, the AA hands looked right and hell, even the AQ hand. Hes a cash cow. Exploit his sorry ass.

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If you're going to pay off a set w/ AA, fine. No argument but you've got to build the pot for the times when the sets miss. It's poker over the thousands of times you've been dealt AA, KK, QQ, JJ, etc.

Redunancy is important when you see the same problems PF; hell I've made more than my fair share, but I don't think that extra value is nit picking what so ever.

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so how much do you raise/reraise (a 2-3$ raise at NL50) with AA/KK? especially against a live one..

Maulik

12-20-2005, 01:31 PM

so how much do you raise/reraise (a 2-3$ raise at NL50) with AA/KK? especially against a live one..

$$8-10.