Crazy guy bets $98 into $12 pot......turns out it was me...thoughts?

[snowbank]

Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: GeorgePiper ( $47.26)
Seat 2: Snadly ( $77.90)
Seat 3: HERO ( $101)
Seat 5: thegahi ( $110.28)
Seat 6: blondie3398 ( $18.50)
HERO posts small blind (0.25)
thegahi posts big blind (0.50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ad, Ah ]
blondie3398 calls (0.50)
GeorgePiper calls (0.50)
Snadly folds.
HERO raises (2.75) to 3
thegahi calls (2.50)
blondie3398 calls (2.50)
GeorgePiper calls (2.50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2h, Js, 2s ]
HERO bets (98)
HERO is all-In.
thegahi folds.
blondie3398 folds.
GeorgePiper folds.
Creating Main Pot with $109.40 with murphyempire
** Summary **
Main Pot: $109.40 | Rake: $0.60
Board: [ 2h Js 2s ]
GeorgePiper balance $44.26, lost $3 (folded)
Snadly balance $77.90, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance $109.40, bet $101, collected $109.40, net +$8.40
thegahi balance $107.28, lost $3 (folded)
blondie3398 balance $15.50, lost $3 (folded)

[Logik]

Any hand beating you calls. ANY hand.

[snowbank]

Any hand beating you calls. ANY hand.

LOL. Obviously they wouldn't fold. That's the reason for the post. The chance of someone having a 2 is almost 0. The chance of JJ very slim. The chance of AJ or KJ, likely someone could have that. Chance of a flush draw, very likely. With 3 other players in, I didn't want anyone drawing to anything. This play is crazy, but is it justified for the chance that someone may call with AJ, KJ, or a flush draw, and the only hand calling me ahead there is JJ, otherwise I'm taking down the pot.

Thoughts?

[BlackRain]

You will get called rarely by AJ, KJ, FD's. This play is not worth it. You will win a small pot 90% of the time and kill all that profit by losing a massive one 10% of the time. It makes much more sense to bet the pot and win a medium size pot 75% of the time and lose a medium size pot 25% of the time when they draw out on you. Former scenario is negative or breakeven. Latter scenario is profitable.

[wdeadwyler]

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Any hand beating you calls. ANY hand.

LOL. Obviously they wouldn't fold. That's the reason for the post. The chance of someone having a 2 is almost 0. The chance of JJ very slim. The chance of AJ or KJ, likely someone could have that. Chance of a flush draw, very likely. With 3 other players in, I didn't want anyone drawing to anything. This play is crazy, but is it justified for the chance that someone may call with AJ, KJ, or a flush draw, and the only hand calling me ahead there is JJ, otherwise I'm taking down the pot.

Thoughts?

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If you are scared someone is on the draw 3/4 or full pot it. Your play is suicidal and poor.

[teamdonkey]

wow....

you're underestimating the amount of time noone will hold A2, K2, JJ, 22. you're overestimating the amount of time people will call with AJ/KJ. to be honest, even if you could bend the math to show this as a +EV play (which i don't think you can), there are other plays that are better here.

people don't post these hands when they backfire so i'm glad it worked out for you, but it's still not good.

This is the play you make when you arent good enough to play your hand.

I've only made this move once, and it was because I was up against a mega fish. I can tell you right now that I have frequently stacked people who play overpairs this way.

Unless you've got a rock solid read that there's a guy at the table that just refuses to accept that he could be being bluffed out of a hand, and is willing to drop his stack to find out, this seems like a really poor play. The chance of the above happening though is much slimmer than the chance of some player who's messing around with A2 or 22. Bad Bad Bad

[Exitonly]

well this depends on your image too. if you have a maniac/very lag image then i think this bet definitely gest paid off by AJ/KJ/FD.

Anyways, i like the bet, but only when used when the table thinks you're crazy. (Which, 5 handed, most tables think of me). Not knowing anyything about your image, i'd say this is still +EV but not the most +EV.

[4_2_it]

Nice play...if you hate money. Price out draws and make a pot sized bet. I am only too happy to have chasers overpay to catch cards. That is much move +EV than blindly pushing when you have a monster. I know fast play is the new slow play, that this is rediculous. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[djoyce003]

people have a 2 more often than you think here, and of course they always call you with it. Stupid play.

[IndianaSlim]

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Thoughts?

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next time you try to change your name in a hand history you might want to make sure you change everytime it appears, you know what im saying murphyempire

[tripp0807]

I don't know whether this is FPS or simple chip spewage. I'll quit playing before I start doing this crap.

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Thoughts?

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next time you try to change your name in a hand history you might want to make sure you change everytime it appears, you know what im saying murphyempire

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NH.

[leehrat]

lol i've played against this guy...good ol' murphyempire. 11.9/4.76/2

[Kyriefurro]

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The chance of someone having a 2 is almost 0. The chance of JJ very slim.

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It's a lot higher than you think.

I played this hand Friday night. Villain is TAG and maybe a 2+2er. He's multitabling and obviously NOT paying much attention to how his opponents are playing.

0.50/1 NLHE 6-max <font color="blue"> (4 players) </font>

Hero is in BB w/ A /images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Preflop: UTG calls, Button folds, SB <font color="red"> raises to $6 </font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

($18) Flop: 8 /images/graemlins/club.gif, 2 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2 /images/graemlins/club.gif
SB bets $15, Hero <font color="red"> raises to $45 </font>, UTG folds, SB <font color="red"> raises to $112.85 (all-in) </font>, Hero calls $109.10 (all-in)

SB shows T /images/graemlins/club.gif, T /images/graemlins/spade.gif, and he didn't improve.

After the hand was over he called me a chip for playing A2 lol. I'm sure he also figured that "the chance of someone having a 2 is almost 0." Of course, if he'd paid any attention to how I play he'd have known there was no other possible hand I'd have raised that hard with. I *might* have raised with A8, but not a full PSB. Trips was the only hand I could have had.

[DoomSlice]

I don't get it /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Once I did this on accident when I was trying to bet .75 but instead bet 75... but I had the 2 (7 in my case). I got the Jack to call /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[aces_dad]

Reads: vulnerable to quad-mining. Call pf with 2's, flop quads, wait for push from overs.

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Seriously I think you run into a 2 here too often to make this move and rarely would people gamble with a FD here.

[4_2_it]

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I don't get it /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Once I did this on accident when I was trying to bet .75 but instead bet 75... but I had the 2 (7 in my case). I got the Jack to call /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Jedi mind tricks only work on the feeble-minded. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[grouchie]

forgot to edit your name out of all the spots.

at least no one knows the site heh

[Guin]

The only way this is +EV is if you bet like this with the flush draw and lost a stack with it. That way at least they have a reference to your play in which you were willing to gamble.

Guin