Is this an easy fold?

Villian has raised to $2 preflop about twice an orbit
and he way overbets the flop every time.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button ($7.20)
SB ($9.20)
BB ($30.70)
UTG ($5.45)
Hero ($30.50)
MP1 ($10.35)
MP2 ($34.50)
MP3 ($34.70)
CO ($52.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.75.

Flop: ($6.35) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $11</font>, Button folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $17.35

[EMcWilliams]

Id be amazed if MP3 didnt have AA or KK. Amazed. Set it here, or you gotta drop it.

[DJ Sensei]

Yup, easy fold. This is a great villain to play against, wait for a set or something else good and stack him. If you test his aggression on a hand like this one, you're just playing into his game.

[fathertime]

Odds are you've the best hand. Most likely villain is very aggressive on the flop but shuts down on turn and river. And so

1. you can call flop and see what he does on turn
2. you can raise flop
3. you can call flop and play the board

Most of the time you will be ahead here. Calling preflop and folding on flop is playing into his game.

I'd reraise him preflop with ak, ak, aa-99. He is raising with an assortment of hands. Sometimes you'll catch him with a good one; much of the time he'll be on air.

[Godfather80]

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Odds are you've the best hand. Most likely villain is very aggressive on the flop but shuts down on turn and river. And so

1. you can call flop and see what he does on turn
2. you can raise flop
3. you can call flop and play the board

Most of the time you will be ahead here. Calling preflop and folding on flop is playing into his game.

I'd reraise him preflop with ak, ak, aa-99. He is raising with an assortment of hands. Sometimes you'll catch him with a good one; much of the time he'll be on air.

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This is very questionable advice at this buy-in. At higher buy-ins, I begin to agree with you when you have a specific read.

[fathertime]

Villain is raising twice an orbit and regularly overbetting flop. Advice here is player dependent not level dependent.

[ajmargarine]

No set, no bet. You played for set value, an over flopped, and the PFR bet--so it's c/f for you. Don't speculate against guys like this OOP. Just wait for it and he will give you his stack.

[Godfather80]

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Villain is raising twice an orbit and regularly overbetting flop. Advice here is player dependent not level dependent.

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position dependent too?

[poboy]

I can't believe all the weak-tight advice being given. Villian is raising twice an orbit and overbetting pot every flop. This means he's raising any ace,face,pair, and probably some junk too. If you're plan is no set/no bet then you should find another table with other TP players.

Put him all-in, the only way to combat a bully is to bully him right back. More often then not he'll be holding 2 overs or a small pair. Some times he'll actually have the goods, but not nearly often enough to even consider folding. JMO

[Godfather80]

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I can't believe all the weak-tight advice being given. Villian is raising twice an orbit and overbetting pot every flop. This means he's raising any ace,face,pair, and probably some junk too. If you're plan is no set/no bet then you should find another table with other TP players.

Put him all-in, the only way to combat a bully is to bully him right back. More often then not he'll be holding 2 overs or a small pair. Some times he'll actually have the goods, but not nearly often enough to even consider folding. JMO

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Against a player like this, why not wait till you actually hit something to get paid off. Risk/reward isn't as good now as it will be when Hero hits TP or better if Hero's read is correct.

[Maulik]

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Is this an easy fold?

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It's too expensive finding out. Unless villain has a history of doing so, let him have this one. With information the wise may proceed.

[ajmargarine]

First off, PFR'ing twice an orbit isn't isn't really too crazy. OP doesn't give us a sample size...maybe the guy just had good cards and is used to people calling his flop overbets at this level. That's perfectly reasonable assumption.

It's not weak tight to fold a middle pp in this spot. It's smart poker. By pushing, you are advocating roulette or a guessing game or something along those lines that is not good poker, nor is it how you combat players who overbet flops as described.

[poboy]

Against a player like this you don't need to wait for a monster, he will be broke by that time. Even if he has 2 overs you are better then 2:1, if he has a small pair or just 1 over he's crushed. You can't give a player like this credit for a premium hand just becaused he raised pf and fired off a CB, that's what he does every time. You've got to play back and this is a fine flop to do it, there is only 1 over to your pair which even if he has it he won't feel comfortable calling a push. Then when he folds you can show him and put him on wild monkey tilt /images/graemlins/grin.gif. JMO

[gol4pro]

I agree with the consensus here. You can find better spots to "make him show."

Wait for TPTK or a good overpair/set or something before you can stack him... getting cute with underpairs is a good way to pay him off.

[poboy]

True OP didn't say how large his sample size was, but that was the read provided. Assuming he literally raises twice every orbit, that is somewhere between a LAG and a maniac at a full table. He is certainly raising alot more then TT-AA/AK. JMO