Scuba_Curtains: I don't think I call enough

[Scuba Chuck]

I have my reasons, but I don't call here (maybe that's a mistake for me?)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

SB (t2272)
Hero (t1675)
UTG (t1600)
MP (t2461)
CO (t1002) <font color="white"> go_player Qd 2d </font>
Button (t990)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO raises t1002 (allin), <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t802.

I'm posting this purely for my benefit. You have to put villain on maniac (+2.3% $EV) for this to look like a great call. Perhaps I don't make this judgement enough. In two hands, we're at the next level.

Perhaps I don't give suited aces enough credit. This is a much easier fold with A7o. You lose approximately 0.6% $EV in this difference.

[curtains]

maniac is a pretty tight range for someone with 5x BB on the cutoff. 2.3% is a ridiculously huge amount of EV to gain.

Also even if you put them on loose you are making +.6%. I dont know how many times I have to say it, but if you are folding in a spot where you know your EV is at least +.6% ($11 in the $215s, a riodiculously large sum of money that is usually about 1/2-1/3 of someones total EV for a tournament) then you have no chance to do well at sit and gos.

[1C5]

Don't forget he plays 215s and you (and I) play 33s.

CO's range will on average be larger in the 215s than the 33s and lower for the most part IMO.

[pineapple888]

With only 5BB and 6 players left, CO should be pushing anything remotely reasonable. Looks like a pretty easy call to me.

[Scuba Chuck]

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I dont know how many times I have to say it, but if you are folding in a spot where you know your EV is at least +.6% then you have no chance to do well at sit and gos.

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Hey settle down. You're not supposed to respond for at least an hour. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[curtains]

Ive forgotten about that rule...I like to respond faster /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[pineapple888]

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maniac is a pretty tight range for someone with 5x BB on the cutoff. 2.3% is a ridiculously huge amount of EV to gain.

Also even if you put them on loose you are making +.6%. I dont know how many times I have to say it, but if you are folding in a spot where you know your EV is at least +.6% ($11 in the $215s, a riodiculously large sum of money that is usually about 1/2-1/3 of someones total EV for a tournament) then you have no chance to do well at sit and gos.

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Um, isn't .6% of $215 equal to $1.29? Or are all those numbers a percentage of the total buyins of all players?

[curtains]

The prize pool of the $215s isnt $215 but is actually $2000. Total prize pool is whats important, not buyin.

[Scuba Chuck]

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maniac is a pretty tight range for someone with 5x BB on the cutoff. 2.3% is a ridiculously huge amount of EV to gain.

Also even if you put them on loose you are making +.6%. I dont know how many times I have to say it, but if you are folding in a spot where you know your EV is at least +.6% ($11 in the $215s, a riodiculously large sum of money that is usually about 1/2-1/3 of someones total EV for a tournament) then you have no chance to do well at sit and gos.

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I knew you'd do your homework before you responded/posted. If this hand were A7o, and you put your opponent on loose, $EV number is 0.0%. Out of curiosity, how much would this affect ur decision?

[curtains]

I would call for sure...there is no way I expect my opponent to be as tight as the "loose" range.