$11 - AKo pf

[kevkev60614]

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SB (t1585)
BB (t3130)
UTG (t3210)
Hero (t2400)
CO (t1900)
Button (t1275)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t900</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2400</font>

Read: Reraiser is a donk, but I've never seen him reraise pf before. Is this standard?

[tigerite]

I'd actually fold to the re-raise. You still have 20bb. I don't like to tangle with donks when they re-raise, they can still pick up hands.

Tough spot if he has never been raising before. Looks like high pair. Do you want to risk your stack for a coinflip at best? There are better spots. I vote for fold.

[kevkev60614]

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I'd actually fold to the re-raise. You still have 20bb. I don't like to tangle with donks when they re-raise, they can still pick up hands.

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/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /images/graemlins/shocked.gif /images/graemlins/shocked.gif I was sure of one thing: that I would get a morning response from Tigerite and that he would say push. My mind is blown.

Would he re-raise with AQ here? AJs?

If yes, push.

[tigerite]

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I'd actually fold to the re-raise. You still have 20bb. I don't like to tangle with donks when they re-raise, they can still pick up hands.

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/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /images/graemlins/shocked.gif /images/graemlins/shocked.gif I was sure of one thing: that I would get a morning response from Tigerite and that he would say push. My mind is blown.

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There's a time and a place for pushing, I just don't think this is it. I mean you still have a more than healthy stack for the table, and although AK is a very good hand, mixing it up with a donk who will give you his chips sooner or later anyway, and who has you covered, seems a bit silly, I dunno. If this was 75/150.. sure.. push is a lot better then.

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Would he re-raise with AQ here? AJs?

If yes, push.

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if his range was qq+, AJs+, AQo+ he is no more than a 53% favorite. He shouldn't blow 20BB for a coinflip.

exactly. hero has a perfectly healthy stack even after the raise.

maybe i'm more conservative, but i still might fold to that re-raise at 75/150...

[tigerite]

I might fold it at 75/150, it would depend on other factors then though, such as I would have raised more than 300 for a start off.

[kevkev60614]

Thanks for all the responses. I guess I have no FE here.

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Would he re-raise with AQ here? AJs?

If yes, push.

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if his range was qq+, AJs+, AQo+ he is no more than a 53% favorite. He shouldn't blow 20BB for a coinflip.

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You're right. My mistake.

It's just that lately I've played a bunch of maniac-donks who re-raise with A-9o and K-Jo. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[durron597]

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I'd actually fold to the re-raise. You still have 20bb. I don't like to tangle with donks when they re-raise, they can still pick up hands.

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You've been playing at the 109s too long. Push!!! He has AJ as often as he has 88.

[splashpot]

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I'd actually fold to the re-raise. You still have 20bb. I don't like to tangle with donks when they re-raise, they can still pick up hands.

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You've been playing at the 109s too long. Push!!! He has AJ as often as he has 88.

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Exactly what I was going to say. This is an $11, dude. It's probably been ages since you played one of those, tiger. I've seen guys do this with KQs.

[kevkev60614]

Durron and splashpot: if you assume 0 FE, I think I need to be 54% here to breakeven in $EV. I think a breakeven range is something like TT+, AJs+, AJo+.

Are you arguing that I have some FE here or that villain's range is wider than that? Or are my calculations off? If we widen the range, isn't it more likely to widen to 88+ before AT+?