picking out an suv

[chisness]

i'm bored and won't be getting a car for a couple years but am thinking about which ones are best bets.

things it needs to have:
1) navigation system
2) leather
3) center arm rest (not the ones that slide down from the side of seat)
4) not a luxury make (e.g. lexus, mercedes)

i was looking at the envoy denali and the volkswagen touareg as initial possibilities. i think i'd prefer an SUV but would take non-SUV suggestions.

also, better gas mileage is probably a plus. are the SUV vs. non-SUV mileages very different in general?

[theweatherman]

Planning on climbing any mountains? WTF do you need an SUV for? Please help elevate the overall intelligence ofthe American People and stfu with any more talk of buying an SUV.

SUV have significantly lower gas mileage, significatly higher emission levels, and are much more likely to be involved in a fatal accident (meaning you kill someone in a sedan).

SUVs and the dumbasses who buy them are the reason I almost root for the goddamn terrorists now a days.

[FatalError]

you'll get a volkswagon tourag but not a luxery model? i'd get a BMW X3 before a tourag, that would be in your non luxury price range and still give you a kick ass nav system and your leather/arm rest

X5 would be better but likely out of your price range if you're avoiding luxury models

[MrTrik]

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Planning on climbing any mountains? WTF do you need an SUV for? Please help elevate the overall intelligence ofthe American People and stfu with any more talk of buying an SUV.

SUV have significantly lower gas mileage, significatly higher emission levels, and are much more likely to be involved in a fatal accident (meaning you kill someone in a sedan).

SUVs and the dumbasses who buy them are the reason I almost root for the goddamn terrorists now a days.

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I own an SUV. And yes, I occasionally climb mountains with it; But even if I didn't do that, I'd also be using it for fishing, towing, camping, and getting through huge snow and/or mud now and then.

Maybe you are the one who should STFU!

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Planning on climbing any mountains? WTF do you need an SUV for? Please help elevate the overall intelligence ofthe American People and stfu with any more talk of buying an SUV.

SUV have significantly lower gas mileage, significatly higher emission levels, and are much more likely to be involved in a fatal accident (meaning you kill someone in a sedan).

SUVs and the dumbasses who buy them are the reason I almost root for the goddamn terrorists now a days.

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I seriously hope you get hit by an H2 today. Take it back to the commune hippy.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

I've had a '99 Ford Explorer for 7 years now. 110,000 miles and still runs great, gets about 19 MPG on the highway, 14 in town. Tighter turning radius than a Volvo sedan. Obviously great in the snow and a very comfortable ride.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Every time I think I want to trade my Explorer in for a Civic I think of people like you and say, maybe I'll trade it in for an Expedition.

[chisness]

looooooool @ responses to weatherman

getting back on topic though, i don't want a luxury model not only because of cost, also because i don't want that kind of image right now.

is acura considered luxury (seems borderline)? if not, how are the mdx/tl/tsx?

anyone have any experience with the touareg or envoy?

[Gunny Highway]

I liked my old Pathfinder and the new one looks good.

http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/i/5pt/5pth_gal_big01.jpg

[InchoateHand]

Hahahah...


I love the people who think SUVs are somehow good for "snow."

Sure....okay....


Guess what, the big issue with driving on snow isn't moving, its stoppping. Guess how many brakes cars have? Yup, one on each wheel. Guess how many SUVs have? HEY SAME NUMBER. So suburban idiots, which would probably include most of the SUV owners in this thread, get their nice big boost of confidence given their "amazing" traction on snow. Until they try to stop.

SUVs are entirely pointless. They can do 70% of what a light truck can do, and they cost more because you are buying into a wonderful, absolutely [censored] pointless brand image. Barnum would be proud.

[Gunny Highway]

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Guess what, the big issue with driving on snow isn't moving, its stoppping. Guess how many brakes cars have? Yup, one on each wheel. Guess how many SUVs have? HEY SAME NUMBER. So suburban idiots, which would probably include most of the SUV owners in this thread, get their nice big boost of confidence given their "amazing" traction on snow. Until they try to stop.

SUVs are entirely pointless. They can do 70% of what a light truck can do, and they cost more because you are buying into a wonderful, absolutely [censored] pointless brand image. Barnum would be proud.

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As usual, you're only halfway correct. I've seen numerous vehicles go into a spin on roadways, and have been in vehicles twice when it happened. They were not stopping. They hit ice and spun. Four-wheel drive is good to have.

They do make people overconfident though. You're right about that. People tend to drive like idiots in the snow with their SUVs.

As for the comment about SUVs vs. light trucks, I'm not sure what that even meant, but if I'm carrying something big in the snow, I like having it covered? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[InchoateHand]

Buy a cap for your pickup then.

[RunDownHouse]

If it can't comfortably carry 4 adults and a washing machine, I'm not too interested in owning it. This is why I buy 4Runners instead of Civics or Jeep Wranglers.

Although I may break down and buy a sedan in a few years, when I have enough money and health problems to pay others to move my [censored] around for me.

[Gunny Highway]

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Although I may break down and buy a sedan in a few years, when I have enough money and health problems to pay others to move my [censored] around for me.

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Right. When you're ready to drive 15 mph while bouncing off the curb on your way to the bingo parlor or the early bird at Luby's.

[mostsmooth]

toyota corolla

[jaydub]

InchoateHand,

Two words, ground clearance.

Three more words, 5 plus passengers.

HTH,

J

[gmrankin]

I am going to wait for the 07 Toyota FJ Cruiser. http://www3.telus.net/nanli/FJ_cruiser_G.jpg

[jaydub]

Kurn,

Excursion, definitely the Excursion.

J

[Hiding]

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If it can't comfortably carry 4 adults and a washing machine, I'm not too interested in owning it.

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Which is why I have a 4 door Canyon.

[Meech]

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If it can't comfortably carry 4 adults and a washing machine, I'm not too interested in owning it.

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lmao

Friends smell much or is the trailer too small? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[NoTalent]

This is America, and we can do what the F*ck we want. If you want to buy a SUV, that's your choice.

If you choose to drive a Geo Metro to work while crying listening to Tori Amos--I don't care. It's your choice. Don't try to push it on everyone else.

[Alobar]

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SUVs are entirely pointless. They can do 70% of what a light truck can do, and they cost more because you are buying into a wonderful, absolutely [censored] pointless brand image. Barnum would be proud.

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wrong. I've owned all 3. A car, a truck (two actually) and now an SUV. I got an SUV because it does all of what I want. A truck is nice because I can haul stuff around and tow things and what not, and is great for off roading. but it sucks when it comes to having more than 1 friend and wanting to go someplace, or carrying groceries, and many other everyday little tasks.

A car is nice because it does a lot of stuff a truck cant do. You can drive with more than 1 other person. Youve got some room to carry stuff with out having to put it in the bed. But it has obvious limitations, which are pretty much all the pros of the truck.

Enter the SUV. It does everything a car and a truck can do. It might not do them as good as each one, but you CAN actually do both. I can still go off roading, and carry home 4x8s from home depot. I can also fit comfortably 4 othe people in my ride when we go somewhere. I can put my dogs in the back without getting dog hair over all my seats, or having to worry about them jumping out. I can carry both my bikes AND a ton of stuff at the same time. and about a billion other things you cant do with just a car, or just a truck.

I didnt buy one so that I could fit in with some image. I bought one because it was the best choice given all the things I like to do.

[sublime]

Planning on climbing any mountains? WTF do you need an SUV for? Please help elevate the overall intelligence ofthe American People and stfu with any more talk of buying an SUV.

[MrWookie47]

Dude, that Toyota monstrosity is going to take over from the Honda Element as the official Uglymobile.

[kipin]

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I am going to wait for the 07 Toyota FJ Cruiser. http://www3.telus.net/nanli/FJ_cruiser_G.jpg

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I take shits that look more impressive than that.

[sublime]

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Planning on climbing any mountains? WTF do you need an SUV for? Please help elevate the overall intelligence ofthe American People and stfu with any more talk of buying an SUV.

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note, this is for people who buy SUV's for no reason other than to fit in.

[lapoker17]

chisness - touregs are for chicks. cayenne baby.

[gmrankin]

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I am going to wait for the 07 Toyota FJ Cruiser.

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I take shits that look more impressive than that.

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Good thing i give a [censored].

[DrSavage]

Mazda is rolling out a new SUV next year which looks pretty sweet.

[tdarko]

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WTF do you need an SUV for?

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if you don't mind spending the money on the gas there are actually plenty of reasons to have an SUV, alobar touched on a few and if you had a brain in that pea head of yours you could figure it out.
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are much more likely to be involved in a fatal accident (meaning you kill someone in a sedan).


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wow. just wow. easy [censored] solutions to this...be a better defensive driver is one. don't drive a [censored] sardine can is another. you seriously act like a [censored] woman.
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SUVs and the dumbasses who buy them are the reason I almost root for the goddamn terrorists now a days.

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i know its the end of the year but man this ranks up their with some of the stupidest comments of 2005.


believe it or not there are thousands of people that use SUV's responsibly on the road and have them for practical purposes yet you are going to judge them w/o knowing them b/c of something you have fixated in your mind. now that is not "elevating the overall intelligence of the American People" now is it?