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whiskeytown
12-17-2005, 12:29 PM
You know - when it pays 9 and you're 10th of 13 with 11 times the Big blind.

And you get something like A6 offsuit in early or mid position with no callers and get pot or all in committed.

and you almost ALWAYS lose...cause if ANYONE calls you're usually taking the worst of it - even with that A high...

I think I'm gonna leave it out of my range of pushing hands for a while when I get short stacked - go more with JT suited - If I'm gonna get a caller I want more draws at him then 3 cards... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

RB

Sam T.
12-17-2005, 12:43 PM
Agreed - I think this used to be a big leak in my bubble play. I've come to the conclusion that I'd rather push all-in with lousy cards and good position than mediocre cards in lousy position. So with A6o UTG I muck, while with 72o in the CO I'm all-in if it's folded to me. (No not always, but you get my point.)

Rickyroodido
12-17-2005, 05:40 PM
Was this a 50+5 pl at stars?

12-17-2005, 05:41 PM
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And you get something like A6 offsuit in early or mid position with no callers and get pot or all in committed.

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Agree with you and Sam here totally. Tightening up my play with weak Aces has saved me a lot of headaches in NL MTTs and limit ring games. Even a suited Ace isn't that good here, because the only hands that give you game are hands that dominate already or can easily dominate on the flop. The only real question is situational, that is, whether or not the push is very highly probable to make everyone fold. That is probably the only value that the hand has from there.

nath
12-17-2005, 06:06 PM
one thing i've learned is that pushing low aces as a short stack from up front is a recipe for disaster.
wait for position or push a hand that won't be dominated.

whiskeytown
12-18-2005, 04:53 AM
lol - maybe at one time - but not today.

seems like there was a time there where it was my bustout hand every tourney - me trying a blind steal, getting called, and dominated -

I have a big note up now -

NO MORE A/RAG UNTIL 3XBB BEFORE ALL-IN!!!!

hoping that will do it - cause EVENTUALLY, with that stack, you have to take a stand...just hoping to do it less with that hand and more with KJ or 33

RB

Roman
12-18-2005, 06:26 AM
Fold Arag pf next time, this is a leak.