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thedorf
12-17-2005, 01:24 AM
What's up donks,

Hey, anyone know when it actually pays to play in the party poker bad beat games. I play 15/30 regularly and have never played the bad beat games. the details of the jackpot are below. Just wondering if any of you math geniuses have done the work to find out when it's actually a + ev proposition. Gracias

Dorf

Fund distribution
Every time the jackpot is hit, 70% of the jackpot amount will be distributed and 20% will be used as seed amount for the next jackpot. 10% will be retained by Party Poker as administrative fee. Of the distributed amount, 50% will go to the loser of the hand (the Bad Beat), 25% to the winner and 25% will be split between the other seated players who actively participated in the hand (any player sitting out will not receive a portion of the jackpot).

To Qualify for the Progressive Bad Beat Jackpot

Bad beats will be paid out on real money Hold'em games (Limits $2/$4, $3/$6, $5/$10, $10/$20 and $15/$30); available under the Bad Beat Jackpot Tab only.
4 or more players must be dealt into the hand.
Players sitting out do not qualify for the jackpot.
The losing hand must contain four of a kind (8’s) or better to qualify.
The BEST hand of the winner and the loser must include both the hole cards and the hand must go to a showdown.
The hand must be raked and jackpot contribution collected from the hand to qualify for a bad beat jackpot.
If there are two or more hands that qualify for the jackpot within one hand #, then the two highest hands will be considered for the jackpot, with the highest hand being the winning hand (the winner) and the second highest hand winning the bad beat (the loser of the hand).
In the event that two qualifying Jackpot hands are hit at exactly the same time, the hand starting first (based on our system clock) will be awarded the jackpot.
Players must play their hands independently and cannot tell opponents how to act or reveal their hand to other players. Violations will disqualify the hand for the Jackpot.

JackOfSpeed
12-17-2005, 02:04 AM
This question is asked about every week or two at 2+2.

It's tough to say the exact figure for obvious reasons, but $140,000 is the number that has been bandied about around here.

ohnonotthat
12-17-2005, 06:49 AM
I don't play in the bad beat games - never have tho I probably should pop in for a look once in awhile.

The criteria you should be using for whether or not it's worth paying a higher rake (extra half dollar ?) has nothing to do with the actual size of the jackpot but should instead be based on the value your opponents put on it.

If 2 or more players at the table are - or appear to be - making anything more than the tiniest adjustment in their strategy due to the jackpot, drop what you're doing and jump in.

Actually hitting this miracle should take a back seat to the opportunity to feast on those who are playing huge longshots trying to hit it themselves.

If there are enough of these players I'd happily pay an extra 50 cents in rake even if I myself were prohibited from collecting if I hit it.

Drontier
12-18-2005, 01:07 AM
go to bonuswhores.com there is a list of how muhc the jackpot has to be at for every stakes for it to be +EV