WPT Final 6 (Clearly Official 5 Diamond Day 5 Thread)

[Yeti]

Hi,

WPT Bellagio Five Diamond Poker Classic - Final Table
Seat Player Chips
1 Darrell Dicked $3,510,000
2 Patrick Antonius $1,755,000
3 Rehne Pedersen $3,225,000
4 Joanne 'J.J.' Liu $3,630,000
5 Phil 'Unabomber' Laak $2,505,000
6 Doyle Brunson $2,025,000

Can anyone tell me what time the great Dimebag Darrell resumes play today?

Thanks!

[tylerdurden]

Wow, good thing someone started the 3425th thread on this.

The answer to your question is RIGHT HERE (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=4209397) - on the front page of this forum.

[Yeti]

I was thinking this could be the officical 'in play' thread. If you like I could add *** OFFICIAL *** to the title. I know you guys go for that stuff.

7 pm PST.

Other than cardplayer, I'm pretty sure there's another site or two showing video/coverage of the 5 Diamond... I saw some yesterday on another PC, and I cant seem to find them again...

can anyone point me in the right direction?

[Ulysses]

All,

As this thread was created first, it has my endorsement as the OFFICIAL Bellagio WPT Final Table thread.

[ClaytonN]

Damn I got owned /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

No official tag, however will we manage?

[chuddo]

can someone post a copy of the hand where gigabet bluffs into JJ's Kings full? Thanks!

[Yeti]

Dids and Diablo,

Thank you for your ongoing support and recognition of my efforts.

[Yeti]

Chuddo,

Please try to keep this thread on topic. This will deal primarily with hands played today; so no talk of the 73, A7 or AQ hands. Thanks.

[ClaytonN]

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can someone post a copy of the hand where gigabet bluffs into JJ's Kings full? Thanks!

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it's discussed ad nauseum in MTT

[chuddo]

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can someone post a copy of the hand where gigabet bluffs into JJ's Kings full? Thanks!

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it's discussed ad nauseum in MTT

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THANKS!

[Yeti]

Guys, this starts in approx 20 mins. Where is your enthusiasm? I hope you are all as excited as myself.

[ClaytonN]

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Guys, this starts in approx 20 mins. Where is your enthusiasm? I hope you are all as excited as myself.

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[Ulysses]

Yeti,

FYI, it is currently 4:21PST.

[Yeti]

Thanks. I assumed EST for some reason.

damn timezones

[Freudian]

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Yeti,

FYI, it is currently 4:21PST.

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Is there anything you don't know?

[kenberman]

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2 Patrick Antonius $1,755,000

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guy is on a roll

[Freudian]

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2 Patrick Antonius $1,755,000

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guy is on a roll

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Most of the swedish pros have huge respect for him. And for swedes to respect a finn, you can be pretty sure he is very good.

Things are getting rolling on cardplayer.. we got cards flyin in about 5 min..

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Things are getting rolling on cardplayer.. we got cards flyin in about 5 min..

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Is that the best place to follow the action?

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Things are getting rolling on cardplayer.. we got cards flyin in about 5 min..

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Is that the best place to follow the action?

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I was looking around earlier.. from what I see thats the best..

Gutshot has coverage here (http://www.gutshot.com/coveragepopup/coveragepop.html) as well

[reecelights]

It seems to me Darrell got a really good seat draw. A couple of people who might possilby be intimidated by him to his left with the seemingly more experienced Doyle and Phil to his right.

Thoughts?

[Quicksilvre]

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Is that the best place to follow the action?

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For final tables, yes. They have virtually every hand played within a few minutes of it actually being played.

thanks!

[KneeCo]

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Phil Laak points out that when you play online (as Patrik Antonius often does), there is no applause feature like there is here in the studio.

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Someone doesn't play on PartyPoker.

[reecelights]

I never get applause...of course I suck at Cash games.

[Quicksilvre]

So far Patrik has gained about a million and Laak has lost a similar amount.

Patrik Antonius is making spectacular reads... I highly doubt he had the best hand everytime he has won a pot that went post-flop today.

His play throughout the tournament has been spectacular for the most part, and he's bounced back from several bad beats. He's definitely someone to watch in the coming year.

Gigabet is raising a ton of pots. I think he's waiting to raise with a monster, and take out someone who re-raises at the wrong time.

Ouch.... poor Gigabet =/:

Hand #27 - Darrell Dicken has the button in seat 1, Dicken raises to $150,000, and Antonius calls from the small blind. The flop comes Jd-10d-10s, Antonius checks, Dicken bets $250,000, and Antonius calls. The turn card is the 10h, putting three tens on the board. Antonius checks, Dicken bets $350,000, and Antonius calls. The river card is the Ad, putting three diamonds out there. (Of course a flush would be pretty vulnerable with three of a kind on the board.) Antonius bets $600,000, and Dicken folds. Antonius picks up the pot.

[Quicksilvre]

Antonius just finished off Laak. Picked up another $2 million or so.

1 Patrik Antonius $ 6,010,000
2 Joanne 'J.J.' Liu $ 4,845,000
3 Darrell Dicken $ 2,585,000
4 Rehne Pedersen $ 2,430,000
5 Doyle Brunson $ 815,000

Patrik has picked up FOUR MILLION in an hour and a half. Doyle's chips have mostly magically disappeared.

(from PokerWire)

[two0crew]

Ya, way to donk off the chips Laak. Too bad not to Darrell though.

Hand #30 - Joanne J.J. Liu has the button in seat 4, Antonius raises to $200,000, and Laak thinks for a while before he pushes all of his chips ($2,060,000) into the middle from the small blind. Brunson folds from the big blind, and Antonius immediately calls -- with pocket aces (Ah-As). Laak is upset with himself as he shows Kd-3c, and he's a big underdog here.


The flop comes Ks-Js-10d, and Laak picks up a pair of kings to give himself a fighting chance with five outs. The turn card is the Ad, which means Laak cannot win the pot -- although a queen on the river would put a straight on the board to chop the pot. But the last card is the 5h, and Phil "Unabomber" Laak is eliminated in sixth place, earning $160,995.


The next player eliminated will receive $241,495 for fifth place.

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On another note, J.J. has yet to lose a pot tonight.

Don't understand what Phil was thinking there.... sounds like a huge risk just to win 200k.

[DHamilton97]

Man Phil Laak is gonna be thinking about that dumb move for a LONG time. Difference between first and 6th is 1.9 million. Jebus! Got through 484 and only needed 5 more people to go through and ya screw it up.

[Quicksilvre]

Question: does anyone know what the WPT blind structure is? I know they use a different one for the final table.

[censored].

Doyle Brunson Doubles Through Darrell "Gigabet" Dicken
Log: Hand #31 - There is a dead button in seat 5, and Brunson moves all in from the small blind. Dicken calls with As-Jc, but Brunson dominates him with Ad-Kc. The flop comes 10c-9s-7d, and Dicken picks up a gut-shot straight draw, and he can win with an eight or a jack. The turn card is the 5s, the river card is the 2h, and Doyle Brunson doubles up in chips to over $1.6 million.

EDIT: This means Gigabet is down to about 1.6 million as well. =/

[Sponger15SB]

lol damn, Antonius is the luckiest player alive. Way to just get handed 2mil in chips.

[Sponger15SB]

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On another note, J.J. has yet to lose a pot tonight.

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It appears as though JJ is letting everyone go crazy on each other while she picks up a few small pots to avoid losing a couple hundred thousand chips cause of the blinds/antes.

[betgo]

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Man Phil Laak is gonna be thinking about that dumb move for a LONG time. Difference between first and 6th is 1.9 million. Jebus! Got through 484 and only needed 5 more people to go through and ya screw it up.

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This was a resteal. He probably had a read that Antonius didn't have a strong hand. If Antonius folds, he picks up a 400K pot and maybe K3o won't be in too bad shape if heis called.

Notice Antonius made a small raise to 2.5xBB. The Unabomber undoubtably interpreted that as a weak attempt to steal the blinds.

[Quicksilvre]

Doyle just hauled in a pot from Patrik, so he's over where he started from at over $2 million.

I guess the Unabomber didn't read Caro's Book of Tells.

Remember, weak means strong.

hehe =)

Am I right in assuming that Gigabet is playing for 1st and 1st only?

[Sponger15SB]

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This was a resteal. He probably had a read that Antonius didn't have a strong hand. If Antonius folds, he picks up a 400K pot and maybe K3o won't be in too bad shape if heis called.

Notice Antonius made a small raise to 2.5xBB. The Unabomber undoubtably interpreted that as a weak attempt to steal the blinds.

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[Sponger15SB]

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Am I right in assuming that Gigabet is playing for 1st and 1st only?

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Yes, however all the other people aren't playing for first. They prefer 2nds and 3rds.

[Sponger15SB]

I have decided that I am going to make a smart ass remark to as many posts in this thread as possible.

[ononimo]

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Man Phil Laak is gonna be thinking about that dumb move for a LONG time. Difference between first and 6th is 1.9 million. Jebus! Got through 484 and only needed 5 more people to go through and ya screw it up.

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This was a resteal. He probably had a read that Antonius didn't have a strong hand. If Antonius folds, he picks up a 400K pot and maybe K3o won't be in too bad shape if heis called.

Notice Antonius made a small raise to 2.5xBB. The Unabomber undoubtably interpreted that as a weak attempt to steal the blinds.

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2.5x BB is usually close to standard as blinds get higher and higher ... do we know what the standard raise was at the time?

[Boris]

Joanne 'J.J.' Liu raised to 250k from the button, Doyle Brunson re-raised to 1.0m, and Liu pushed in. Doyle folded and Liu took the pot increasing her stack.

[betgo]

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Joanne 'J.J.' Liu raised to 250k from the button, Doyle Brunson re-raised to 1.0m, and Liu pushed in. Doyle folded and Liu took the pot increasing her stack.

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Brunson was geting better than 2-1 to call. Interesting to see what junk he was restealing with, probably worse than Laak's K3o. I guess this is Brunson's survival strategy.

[roundest]

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Man Phil Laak is gonna be thinking about that dumb move for a LONG time. Difference between first and 6th is 1.9 million. Jebus! Got through 484 and only needed 5 more people to go through and ya screw it up.

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This was a resteal. He probably had a read that Antonius didn't have a strong hand.


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Great read then, Phil.

Darrell "Gigabet" Dicken Doubles Through Rehne Pedersen
Log: <b>Hand #51</b> - Darrell Dicken has the button in seat 1, Dicken moves all in for $1,040,000, and Pedersen calls from the big blind with Ah-Qd. Dicken shows Jh-10s, and he'll need to improve to stay alive.


The flop comes 10h-4h-2h, and Dicken makes a pair of tens against Pedersen's ace-high flush draw. The turn card is the Kd, and now Pedersen can win the hand with a jack (for a straight), a queen, an ace, or any heart. But the river card is the 6c, and Darrell Dicken doubles up to over $2 million in chips.


After the hand, Pedersen is down to about $1,000,000 in chips.

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I understand Gigabet's move, since really, Pederson will only call with a Premium hand. But man, he almost got killed on this one. Hopefully, this will induce more calls when Gigabet has a premium holding.

How many times has Gigabet come from behind in a showdown with his life on the line? There was the A7 quads hand, this hand, the 73o hand and a 72s hand right?

[ononimo]

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How many times has Gigabet come from behind in a showdown with his life on the line? There was the A7 quads hand, this hand, the 73o hand and a 72s hand right?

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http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y204/OccamsRazor/gus.jpg

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Date / Time: 2005-12-16 21:41:00
Title: Rehne Pedersen and Darrell Dicken Chop a Pot
Log: Hand #52 - Patrik Antonius has the button in seat 2, Dicken raises to $300,000, Pedersen moves all in for $1,050,000 from the small blind, and Dicken calls with Qc-8c. Pedersen dominates him with Ah-8d.


The flop comes 7d-6c-4s, and Pedersen is still in the lead with ace high. But the turn card is the 5h, and both players make an eight-high straight to chop the pot. (The meaningless river card is the 2s.)

Gigabet knows there's going to be a lot of bullying by the big stacks, with the blinds so high. He basically risked half his stack, to send the message that people who move in on him better have a hand, because he will call them down.

Although I'm sure he was hoping he'd have 2 live cards.

[ononimo]

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Date / Time: 2005-12-16 21:41:00
Title: Rehne Pedersen and Darrell Dicken Chop a Pot
Log: Hand #52 - Patrik Antonius has the button in seat 2, Dicken raises to $300,000, Pedersen moves all in for $1,050,000 from the small blind, and Dicken calls with Qc-8c. Pedersen dominates him with Ah-8d.


The flop comes 7d-6c-4s, and Pedersen is still in the lead with ace high. But the turn card is the 5h, and both players make an eight-high straight to chop the pot. (The meaningless river card is the 2s.)

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you know Mike and Vince are going to have a field day with the commentary on Gigabet and these hands

[ononimo]

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Gigabet knows there's going to be a lot of bullying by the big stacks, with the blinds so high. He basically risked half his stack, to send the message that people who move in on him better have a hand, because he will call them down.

Although I'm sure he was hoping he'd have 2 live cards.

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yep - pretty much the same philosophy that Gus Hansen made popular during the first 2 seasons of the WPT.

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Gigabet knows there's going to be a lot of bullying by the big stacks, with the blinds so high. He basically risked half his stack, to send the message that people who move in on him better have a hand, because he will call them down.

Although I'm sure he was hoping he'd have 2 live cards.

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yep - pretty much the same philosophy that Gus Hansen made popular during the first 2 seasons of the WPT.

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Hey, you can't argue with success. haha.

<b>Hand #62</b> - Patrik Antonius has the button in seat 2, Dicken raises to $300,000, Pedersen moves all in for $1.2 million from the small blind, and Dicken calls with Q-J. Pedersen shows Ah-Js, and he's in a dominating position to double up here.


The flop comes Ac-9c-9d, and Pedersen solidifies his lead with a pair of aces. Dicken needs something runner-runner to survive, but the turn card is the 3s, and he is drawing dead. (The meaningless river card is the 5s.) Rehne Pedersen doubles up to over $2.5 million in chips.

CHRIST GIGABET.

[Punker]

I like Gigabet as much as the next guy, but goddamn he's gotten a lot of money in badly today.

[ononimo]

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<b>Hand #62</b> - Patrik Antonius has the button in seat 2, Dicken raises to $300,000, Pedersen moves all in for $1.2 million from the small blind, and Dicken calls with Q-J. Pedersen shows Ah-Js, and he's in a dominating position to double up here.


The flop comes Ac-9c-9d, and Pedersen solidifies his lead with a pair of aces. Dicken needs something runner-runner to survive, but the turn card is the 3s, and he is drawing dead. (The meaningless river card is the 5s.) Rehne Pedersen doubles up to over $2.5 million in chips.

CHRIST GIGABET.

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calling w/ dominated hands is not a successful long-term (or short-term) strategy.

He finally has a hand....

Hand #65 - Doyle Brunson has the button in seat 6, and Dicken moves all in for about $800,000 from the small blind, winning the blinds and antes. Dicken shows pocket sevens as he collects the pot.

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calling w/ dominated hands is not a successful long-term (or short-term) strategy.

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Neither is folding everytime an aggressive player raises at a short-handed table with huge blinds.

[ononimo]

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calling w/ dominated hands is not a successful long-term (or short-term) strategy.

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Neither is folding everytime an aggressive player raises at a short-handed table with huge blinds.

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we're not talking about just the QJ hand, sir.
like punker said, i like Gigabet as much as the next guy, but you can't tell me he isn't getting his money in badly A LOT.

[psyduck]

<font color="red"> I can't believe Gigabet was 8-tabling the 215s just a year ago. That guy is insane. </font>

[bones]

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<font color="red"> I can't believe Gigabet was 8-tabling the 215s just a year ago. That guy is insane. </font>

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I don't understand what is unbelievable about that.

[Sponger15SB]

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<font color="red"> I can't believe Gigabet was 8-tabling the 215s just a year ago. That guy is insane. </font>

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Did you really need to put this in red and italicise "just a year ago".

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calling w/ dominated hands is not a successful long-term (or short-term) strategy.

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Neither is folding everytime an aggressive player raises at a short-handed table with huge blinds.

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we're not talking about just the QJ hand, sir.
like punker said, i like Gigabet as much as the next guy, but you can't tell me he isn't getting his money in badly A LOT.

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Yeah, I agree. Sorry if my post came off as mean. I was just trying to say I think it's hard to criticize final table play in a situation like this without being there to understand the thought process (I'm def. not saying you're doing that, though. Just sayin'...)

[psyduck]

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<font color="red"> I can't believe Gigabet was 8-tabling the 215s just a year ago. That guy is insane. </font>

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Did you really need to put this in red and italicise "just a year ago".

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<font color="blue"> Italicise is spelled with a 'z'. </font>

Just when Gigabet finally has the slightly better hand preflop.... karma comes back:

Darrell "Gigabet" Dicken Eliminated in 5th Place ($241,495)
Log:


&lt;b&gt;Hand #68&lt;/b&gt; - Rehne Pedersen has the button in seat 3, Dicken moves all in for $1,295,000, Antonius calls with Ah-Js. Dicken shows pocket fours (4c-4s), and it's a race situation. The flop comes Jh-9h-7c, and Antonius makes a pair of jacks to take the lead. The turn card is the 6s, and Dicken needs a four on the river to stay alive. The last card is the 8s, and Darrell "Gigabet" Dicken is eliminated in fifth place, earning $241,495.

[Sponger15SB]

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<font color="red"> I can't believe Gigabet was 8-tabling the 215s just a year ago. That guy is insane. </font>

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Did you really need to put this in red and italicise "just a year ago".

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<font color="blue"> Italicise is spelled with a 'z'. </font>

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http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=italicise

[ononimo]

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<font color="red"> I can't believe Gigabet was 8-tabling the 215s just a year ago. That guy is insane. </font>

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Did you really need to put this in red and italicise "just a year ago".

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<font color="blue"> Italicise is spelled with a 'z'. </font>

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has anyone told Queen Elizabeth II?

[psyduck]

<font color="green"> Darrell "Gigabet" Dicken Eliminated in 5th Place ($241,495) </font>

[censored]! Guy is so unlucky, can't even win one single race. Plus he's a favorite too!

Perhaps it's fitting that he got busted by Antonius.

[ononimo]

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calling w/ dominated hands is not a successful long-term (or short-term) strategy.

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Neither is folding everytime an aggressive player raises at a short-handed table with huge blinds.

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we're not talking about just the QJ hand, sir.
like punker said, i like Gigabet as much as the next guy, but you can't tell me he isn't getting his money in badly A LOT.

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Yeah, I agree. Sorry if my post came off as mean. I was just trying to say I think it's hard to criticize final table play in a situation like this without being there to understand the thought process (I'm def. not saying you're doing that, though. Just sayin'...)

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very fair point ... however, when you consider the size of the pot before the re-raise (about 600K) and the fact that he had to call another 900K more, it's not clear that calling with QJ was the right play in that situation.

[ononimo]

GG Gigabet! nice cash.

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you know Mike and Vince are going to have a field day with the commentary on Gigabet and these hands

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Oh they're gonna love him. I think they're going to have a hard time deciding which of his crazy all-ins make the cut. A ssuming it's two hours, I guess all of them could.

One thing I don't understand, sometimes the players say they can hear stuff Mike and VVP are saying. How does all that work?

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very fair point ... however, when you consider the size of the pot before the re-raise (about 600K) and the fact that he had to call another 900K more, it's not clear that calling with QJ was the right play in that situation.

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I liked your first response better. :-) (I caught it before you changed it.)

Congrats Gigabet!

[DHamilton97]

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you know Mike and Vince are going to have a field day with the commentary on Gigabet and these hands

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Oh they're gonna love him. I think they're going to have a hard time deciding which of his crazy all-ins make the cut. A ssuming it's two hours, I guess all of them could.

One thing I don't understand, sometimes the players say they can hear stuff Mike and VVP are saying. How does all that work?

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Doesn't matter. They aren't allowed to see the hole cards anyways as its against the law.

[ononimo]

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I liked your first response better. :-) (I caught it before you changed it.)

Congrats Gigabet!

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d'oh! /images/graemlins/blush.gif
still friends?

[ononimo]

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One thing I don't understand, sometimes the players say they can hear stuff Mike and VVP are saying. How does all that work?

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during live play, Mike and Vince provide commentary during WITHOUT the benefit of seeing hole cards. this is the commentary that can be overheard during play. after the tournament is over, they go back and dub-in additional commentary once they know what everyone is holding.

Hand #71 - Patrik Antonius has the button in seat 2, he raises to $300,000, and Liu calls from the big blind. The flop comes Ac-7c-6h, and both players check. The turn card is the 3c (putting three clubs on the board), Liu bets $300,000, and Antonius calls. The river card is the 9d, Liu checks, Antonius bets $1,000,000, and Liu thinks for about two minutes before calling. Antonius shows 4-2 (the nut low) , and Liu shows A-J (pair of aces) to win.

The nut low - priceless. Maybe Antonius got confused for a sec. and thought this was triple draw.

And so much for Liu folding everything but the nuts.

[TimTimSalabim]

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This was a resteal. He probably had a read that Antonius didn't have a strong hand. If Antonius folds, he picks up a 400K pot and maybe K3o won't be in too bad shape if heis called.

Notice Antonius made a small raise to 2.5xBB. The Unabomber undoubtably interpreted that as a weak attempt to steal the blinds.

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I miss Norm. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[A_C_Slater]

The blinds jump from 60,000/120,000/15,000ante to 100,000/200,000/20,000ante.

What a jopke.

[betgo]

Place Poker Player Chip Count
1 Doyle Brunson $ 4,500,000
2 Joanne 'J.J.' Liu $ 4,000,000
3 Patrik Antonius $ 4,000,000
4 Rehne Pedersen $ 3,500,000

[ononimo]

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Place Poker Player Chip Count
1 Doyle Brunson $ 4,500,000
2 Joanne 'J.J.' Liu $ 4,000,000
3 Patrik Antonius $ 4,000,000
4 Rehne Pedersen $ 3,500,000

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looks like a direct transfer from Antonius to Doyle ...

[Boris]

doyle got stupid lucky.

[psyduck]

freaking donkey

Hand #88 - Rehne Pedersen has the button in seat 3, Antonius raises to $600,000, and Brunson calls from the big blind. The flop comes 8c-4s-2c, Brunson moves all in for $1,775,000, and Antonius immediately calls with pocket nines (9c-9s). Brunson shows 10h-8s (pocket eights), and he needs to catch an eight or a ten to stay alive.

The turn card is the 10c, and Brunson makes two pair! The crowd cheers louder than they have all night -- they're rooting for Doyle after all! Now Antonius needs to catch a nine or a club to bust Brunson. The river card is the 4h, and Doyle Brunson doubles up to about $5 million to take the chip lead.

This always seems to happen. 2 or 3 exciting players make the final table in a WPT event alongside 3 or 4 no-names, and the exciting players get knocked out early. I was hoping that Laak, Brunson, and Dicken would go at it, but NOOOOO. Once again, the cool players are out, with Brunson being the only one left I care about.

10h-8s (pocket eights) lol

[Kyo Souma II]

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This always seems to happen. 2 or 3 exciting players make the final table in a WPT event alongside 3 or 4 no-names, and the exciting players get knocked out early.

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Hey! Patrik Antonius excites me.

-kyo

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still friends?

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I would have it no other way.

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Hand #103 - Patrik Antonius has the button in seat 2, Brunson raises to $600,000, Antonius moves all in for about $5.5 million, and Brunson asks Tournament Director Jack McClelland how much time is left at the current level of blinds. The answer is 14 minutes, and the blinds increase by big jumps here on the World Poker Tour. Brunson weighs the factors, and decides to fold. Antonius takes the pot.

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What range of hands would Doyle have here to make him factor in the blind change? Something like choosing to gamble with 22-55?

[captZEEbo1]

hey everyone, if you don't know who patrik antonious is, he's the guy that recently was playing 200/400 NL vs prahlad, and was doing VERY well.
linky (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=3935617&amp;page=0&amp;fpart=1&amp;v c=1)
some fun hands in there, and I think the biggest pot in online history was in there somewhere too....I think it was like a 200k pot.

part2 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Board=plnlpoker&amp;Number=4004239&amp; Searchpage=1&amp;Main=3990768&amp;Words=iku&amp;topic=&amp;Search= true#Post4004239)

[Kyo Souma II]

Hand #119 - Patrik Antonius has the button in seat 2, he moves all in, and Pedersen calls all in (for $2,785,000) with pocket queens (Qh-Qd). Antonius shows 8s-5d, and he'll need to improve to eliminate Pedersen. The flop comes Jd-9s-2s, and Antonius will need something runner-runner to survive. The turn card is the Ks, and that gives Antonius a flush draw, and he can with with a spade on the river. But the last card is the 10d, and Rehne Pedersen doubles up to nearly $6 million in chips.

The old hoyt corkins strategy?

[psyduck]

everyone has close to BB now. PUSHBOT ICM POKER, HERE WE COME

[jeffraider]

They could clearly use some work on their pushbot skills!

The WPT is really doing a disservice with these huge blinds. If any of us were still in it we would be about even money with these guys. This should not end like a SNG with $2 million on the line.

[Kyo Souma II]

Like every WPT event since the second season, you mean?

Date / Time: 2005-12-17 01:06:00
Title: Doyle Brunson Eliminated in 3rd Place ($563,485)
Log:
Hand #146 - Doyle Brunson has the button in seat 6, he moves all in, and Pedersen immediately calls from the big blind with pocket kings (Kc-Ks). Brunson shows Kh-Js, and he is severely dominated here with his tournament life on the line.

The flop comes 10c-6s-3s, and Brunson will need something runner-runner to survive. The turn card is the Qh, and Brunson has picked up an open-ended straight draw, and he needs a nine or a king to stay alive. But the river card is the 8c, and Doyle Brunson is eliminated in third place, earning $563,485.

The next player eliminated will receive $1,046,470 for second place, while the winner will walk away with $2,078,185.

There will be a short break as they prepare for the money presentation, followed by heads-up play.

Hey Daryn, what do you think about the all those victims of the quake in Pakistan?

[daryn]

does anyone care?

answer: no

Man that's harsh.

[Yeti]

Just woke up!

Gigabet seems unnaturally good at getting the money in with a dominated hand.

[KINGOFINLAND]

Hand #170 - Patrik Antonius has the button, he moves all in, and Pedersen immediately calls with Ad-4d. Antonius is dominated As-Ks. Pedersen needs to improve to stay alive here, as Antonius has a few more chips.

The flop comes 7h-6s-5d, and Pedersen picks up an open-ended straight draw, and he suddenly has a lot of outs. The turn card is the 3s, and Pedersen hits his straight. But now Antonius has picked up a flush draw, and lots of people in the audience start chanting, "Spade! Spade! Spade! Spade!"

The river card is the 10h, and Rehne Pedersen wins the hand with a seven-high straight to double up in chips. The new chip counts:

Rehne Pedersen - $16,500,000
Patrik Antonius - $150,000

Hand #171 - Rehne Pedersen has the button, and Antonius is forced all in for the big blind. The players flip over their cards, and Antonius has Ks-7s against Pedersen's pocket eights (8c-8s). Antonius needs to improve to stay alive.

The flop comes 9d-6c-3s, and Pedersen retains the lead. The turn card is the 3c, and Antonius needs to catch a king to survive. The river card is the Jc, and Patrik Antonius is eliminated in second place, earning $1,046,470.

Rehne Pedersen wins the 2005 WPT Bellagio Five Diamond World Poker Classic, winning $2,078,185, a gold-and-diamond bracelet, and a $25,500 entry into the season-ending WPT World Championship.

[Jakob]

Yesssss Forza Denmark.. Good job Carlos!

[Kyo Souma II]

Just for comparison's sake...

WSOP HU: 150k/300k A50k, you can chop. 56,000,000 in play.
WPT HU: 300k/600k A50k, you can't chop. 16,500,000 in play.

[ClassicBob]

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Just for comparison's sake...

WSOP HU: 150k/300k A50k, you can chop. 56,000,000 in play.
WPT HU: 300k/600k A50k, you can't chop. 16,500,000 in play.

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This is so unfortunate. I don't think this is in Bloch's list of arguments regarding WPT boycotts, but it sure as hell should be.

By the time it was 4 handed, it basically became a sit-and-go. I'm sure the players are grateful to the WPT for helping to increase the prize pools, but it's ludicrous that you should have to play pushbot poker when the difference in prize money between 6th and 1st is more than 1.8 million.

the crapshoot started from start to finish. and people say the winner of the wtp championship should be crowned the world champion of poker, bahahahahhaha.

Antonius deserved to win... his selective aggression was perfect, and he was making dead on reads. The only mistake was the move in with 85o and getting called, but even then he was still in contention. Also, he was in a dominating position to win with the AKs on the second last hand.

Bad beat. Antonius dominated this tournament.

[Sponger15SB]

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Just for comparison's sake...

WSOP HU: 150k/300k A50k, you can chop. 56,000,000 in play.
WPT HU: 300k/600k A50k, you can't chop. 16,500,000 in play.

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So pathetic. I would be pissed if I were the players. Yay for $1,000,000 coinflips.


I'm wondering. Couldn't the last two players just demand that the blinds be rolled back? What is stopping them? Why don't they just say they won't play it out and will fold every hand without looking? Or how about they just leave the table?

Could this really happen?

[valenzuela]

im sure the weaker player doesnt mind the blind structure.

[SmileyEH]

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im sure the weaker player doesnt mind the blind structure.

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Exactly, if I stumbled into a WPT final table with Brunson, Gigabet, Antonius etc. 10BB stakcs would suit me just fine!

-SmileyEH

[Quicksilvre]

Comparatively shorter stacks would increase the luck factor. Assuming that you're a weaker player, your winning percentage would increase.

[Army Eye]

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This is so unfortunate. I don't think this is in Bloch's list of arguments regarding WPT boycotts, but it sure as hell should be.

By the time it was 4 handed, it basically became a sit-and-go. I'm sure the players are grateful to the WPT for helping to increase the prize pools, but it's ludicrous that you should have to play pushbot poker when the difference in prize money between 6th and 1st is more than 1.8 million.

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Paul Phillips is done with WPT for that reason. I'm kind of surprised more pros haven't come out against it, especially with so many other $10k tournaments as alternatives.

It's almost comical. In this Five Diamond main event, you have an amazingly good structure to determine spots 7th through 555th, and then when you have two-third of the prize pool on the line, to be distributed among the final six, it turns into a turbo SNG, all because the WPT guys want to go home early. They can't be bothered to work a full day, it's only a meager $6 million dollar tournament after all..

[Solitare]

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im sure the weaker player doesnt mind the blind structure.

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While the stronger players may not like the fast blind structure of these WPT TV tournaments, my guess is that they will take the increased payouts that the WPT has enabled as more than adequate compensation.

[Copernicus]

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Paul Phillips is done with WPT for that reason.
o home early.

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If anyone could benefit from a fast blind structure its Paul Phillips.

[betgo]

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Paul Phillips is done with WPT for that reason.
o home early.

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If anyone could benefit from a fast blind structure its Paul Phillips.

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Yeh, he's good with math, aggressive, and plays to win.

[betgo]

I think it is kind of silly to play deep stacks all along and the final table this way.

I mostly play turbo SNGs and multi table turbo SNGs full time. So if I made the final table, Brunson and them wouldn't have much of an advantage over me with this structure.

It's nice to see Antonius performing well as I'm a Finn myself too. Guys background is in casino, and he moved to online poker after learning the game face-to-face. At least in Finland many think that Antonius is the best online player in the world currently, though that kind of ranking is pretty impossible to do. In a recent interview Patrik told that online poker is his job, but live tournaments are the ones that he enjoys.

obviously you guys have never played high stakes "war". if you had you wouldn't be complaining about the final table structure.

[Sponger15SB]

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Paul Phillips is done with WPT for that reason.
o home early.

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If anyone could benefit from a fast blind structure its Paul Phillips.

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Yes, and if anyone could benefit from a slow blind structure its Paul Phillips.

And, who are you?

[FoxwoodsFiend]

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Paul Phillips is done with WPT for that reason.
o home early.

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If anyone could benefit from a fast blind structure its Paul Phillips.

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Maybe he doesn't think the edge he gains in knowing when to push and call is enough to compensate for the crazy-ass variance of playing push-bot with millions on the line.

Paul Phillips is smart, but his instincts during play recently have been pretty terrible.