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Raiser
12-15-2005, 02:04 PM
No reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t1840)
UTG+1 (t777)
Hero (t800)
MP2 (t915)
MP3 (t720)
CO (t405)
Button (t575)
SB (t480)
BB (t1488)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t30, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t30, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>

tigerite
12-15-2005, 02:46 PM
Raise to t150 ish.

schwza
12-15-2005, 02:54 PM
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Raise to t150 ish.

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i'd go to 175. you don't want to give odds.

tigerite
12-15-2005, 02:55 PM
You don't, but you do want to keep the pot manageable for the turn. I don't think 25 makes that much difference to the donks at $22 anyway..

Raiser
12-15-2005, 02:58 PM
OK, I actually raised to t200 on the flop. Now what's your move on the turn?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t1840)
UTG+1 (t777)
Hero (t800)
MP2 (t915)
MP3 (t720)
CO (t405)
Button (t575)
SB (t480)
BB (t1488)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t30, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t30, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls t140.

Turn: (t550) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero???

schwza
12-15-2005, 03:11 PM
i would give up. if he has a flush draw, it's probably Axs. if it's a 6, it's probably A6. or maybe it's 55 and you were smoked all along.

12-15-2005, 03:15 PM
This is one reason you don't raise to 200. It's unnecessarilly bloated the pot. I check the turn, but not necessarilly give up. Villain will interpret that check as weakness and may bluff. I think you can call a manageable bet on the river, or hope to check down.

tigerite
12-15-2005, 04:57 PM
You do have to raise this flop though. I agree t200 is just a bit too much.

12-15-2005, 05:03 PM
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i would give up. if he has a flush draw, it's probably Axs. if it's a 6, it's probably A6. or maybe it's 55 and you were smoked all along.

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Really? A bet/called raise on the flop will have 99 beat more often than not?

Couldn't he easily have 77-88,QJ of clubs, or something crazy like Q5o to make seeing a showdown profitable?

schwza
12-15-2005, 05:25 PM
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i would give up. if he has a flush draw, it's probably Axs. if it's a 6, it's probably A6. or maybe it's 55 and you were smoked all along.

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Really? A bet/called raise on the flop will have 99 beat more often than not?

Couldn't he easily have 77-88,QJ of clubs, or something crazy like Q5o to make seeing a showdown profitable?

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i'm not going to muck my hand. i just mean that i'm going to check behind and call only a small bet on the end.

mosdef
12-15-2005, 05:49 PM
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You do have to raise this flop though. I agree t200 is just a bit too much.

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And the clear turn line is check, call a small river bet. Agreed? A check behind will induce enough weak hands to bet the river that I think that would be profitable.