OT xx,xxx players on x,xxx tables

[stupidsucker]

This may seem like an odd question or even pointless, but..

Does anyone KNOW how party defines "player" in the main lobby?

I would assume that it would mean individuals, but a player could easily be defined as an occupied seat.

For example...

You sit down at two different tables
The other 18 seats are occupied by unique individuals.

By one deffinition there are 19 players.
By another deffinition there are 20 players. (10 players at each table)

[tigerite]

I believe, I'd say I am 90% confident, that their player count is not a unique player count, but how many are sat at the tables. So your 2nd definition.

[durron597]

From a programming point of view, I would say it's likelier that it's the number of connected sessions to their servers than the number of occupied seats.

[Freudian]

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From a programming point of view, I would say it's likelier that it's the number of connected sessions to their servers than the number of occupied seats.

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From a marketing point of view, I would say it is much more likely to be the one that gives the highest player count.

I am pretty certain that one seat occupied=one player. And if you look at how the player counts increased dramatically in a very short timespan during the 3 000 000 000th hand promotion it seems likely that the increase was due to people adding tables with 10 minutes to go instead of 8000 people just happened to log on en masse right when the hands were about to be played.

Tigerite do you know if there's an easy way to 'measure' the number of players playing every half hour or so? I live in the netherlands so I can't play during peak hours. If I'd have some nice stats on the number of players playing through out the day I could decide when it's best to play (evenings or mornings for example). Maybe it's easy to do with some kind of script?

One of those tests where we compare ROI's during different times would be nice too. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[durron597]

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From a programming point of view, I would say it's likelier that it's the number of connected sessions to their servers than the number of occupied seats.

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From a marketing point of view, I would say it is much more likely to be the one that gives the highest player count.

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programmers are lazy

[bluefeet]

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Tigerite do you know if there's an easy way to 'measure' the number of players playing every half hour or so? I live in the netherlands so I can't play during peak hours. If I'd have some nice stats on the number of players playing through out the day I could decide when it's best to play (evenings or mornings for example). Maybe it's easy to do with some kind of script?

One of those tests where we compare ROI's during different times would be nice too. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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I used to have a link to a site that had up-to-date stats showing player volume by day/hour...can't find it /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[tigerite]

Programmers are lazy, yep. But in this case, that makes the latter more likely - they already have to look through each table in the database to find out that count - far easier to get the count of players on that table and do a sum I'd have thought, two birds with one stone. Especially if it's just a database query.

[Freudian]

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From a programming point of view, I would say it's likelier that it's the number of connected sessions to their servers than the number of occupied seats.

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From a marketing point of view, I would say it is much more likely to be the one that gives the highest player count.

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programmers are lazy

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While true, it isn't very advanced programming to count a seat as a player. Furthermore, I doubt this would be left up to the programmers to decide, but a management decision.

[bluefeet]

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programmers are lazy

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i prefer to think i am apathetic

[schwza]

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Tigerite do you know if there's an easy way to 'measure' the number of players playing every half hour or so? I live in the netherlands so I can't play during peak hours. If I'd have some nice stats on the number of players playing through out the day I could decide when it's best to play (evenings or mornings for example). Maybe it's easy to do with some kind of script?

One of those tests where we compare ROI's during different times would be nice too. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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I used to have a link to a site that had up-to-date stats showing player volume by day/hour...can't find it /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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pokerpulse.com used to do it although i heard they went busto.

[Insty]

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One of those tests where we compare ROI's during different times would be nice too.

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This was done relatively recenlty.
Unfortunately I'm not having much luck finding it with the search...

Found It! (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=singletable&Number=311326 8)

[stupidsucker]

From a marketing point of view, I would say it is much more likely to be the one that gives the highest player count.

Bingo.

So based on this thread . . . no one really knows?

I think the number is not individual, but rather a count of pixel players. From a marketing and programming point of view I think that counting the tables and the tally (which they already do) would be the easiest and most effective way. If they don't do it that way I would be surprised.

Thanks for the input...

[durron597]

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programmers are lazy

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i prefer to think i am apathetic

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i'm definitely lazy

[Big Limpin']

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During the last two months, new-player signups have averaged 2,455 a day, and PartyGaming remains confident that it will achieve its goal of signing up 800,000 players this year.

The number of unique active players increased from 443,000 in September to 487,000 in November and the daily average number of players increased from 131,000 in the third quarter to 138,000 the last two months.

PartyGaming will release its full fourth quarter report at the end of January.

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Bolded the important part. I think 180k over hte whole day is in line with primetime having ~60k distinct players, not player-tables.

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One of those tests where we compare ROI's during different times would be nice too.

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This was done relatively recenlty.
Unfortunately I'm not having much luck finding it with the search...

Found It! (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=singletable&Number=311326 8)

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Thanks. According to those stats, my ROI would be twice as high if I played during peak hours, I think. I play mostly from 14:00 to 18:00 and sometimes in the night/morning. (party poker time, that is)

It says x amount of tables are open and they have y amount of seats occupied in them. I say definition 2