($60) speaking of early PF reraises...

[bluefeet]

$60 Stars turbo
Seat 1: (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: (1500 in chips) SB posting 10
Seat 3: (1500 in chips) BB posting 20
bluefeet (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: (1500 in chips) not noted
Seat 8: (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: (1500 in chips)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bluefeet [Qd Qh]
bluefeet: raises 60 to 80
2 folds
Seat 7: raises 660 to 740
5 folds
bluefeet: thinks "bs", and pushes


the 740 is hardly a 'value' raise IMO. i'd push over with JJ & TT as well - agreed?

[microbet]

Definitely. AK, JJ, QQ are the most natural hands to want to do this with; worse hands like, well almost any PP, if villian is a recreational gambler.

I know you'll note him up if he does this with AA or KK.

[Insty]

I'm happy to go broke with Queens here.
If you run into AA or KK so be it, at least you havn't waited a whole SNG to do exactly the same thing and finish in 4th or 5th.

That said, I don't play at stars, so YMMV.

He could be like me. I just wanted to raise to 175 in a party SNG, but I accidently raised to 715. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[Snarf]

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the 740 is hardly a 'value' raise IMO. i'd push over with JJ & TT as well - agreed?

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Pretty much agreed here. Sometimes you'll see a value - overbetter here esp in the turbos - over betting AA /KK trying to take QQ for a ride...

(Like that guy in the WSOP who raised to $1000 with the blinds at 25 25)

I've played some turbos that way....but I don't think you can fold with that like 1 in 10 chance (or less...)

Easy push. NH.

[11t]

I would push here but I'm not shocked to get called by villain with AK.

I fold JJ/TT here, I dislike getting involved in pots with hands that are potentially way behind or racing versus pot committing re-raises. Of course sometimes you push and they call with 77 but I say that is not often enough to justify a push here.

That is just me though.

[Burno]

I push and expect to see AK, 99-JJ the majority of the time. A few times you will see AA/KK. But an equal amount of times you'll see a 55/AJs/XX hand from some gambooling donk just feeeling frisky.

JJ I think I still push. TT is where it gets real iffy for me personally.

[schwza]

i'd push qq and fold tt. jj would be close. i'd probably call.

[Burno]

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jj would be close. i'd probably call.

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Care to explain your reasoning?

[Melchiades]

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I push and expect to see AK, 99-JJ the majority of the time. A few times you will see AA/KK. But an equal amount of times you'll see a 55/AJs/XX hand from some gambooling donk just feeeling frisky.

JJ I think I still push. TT is where it gets real iffy for me personally.

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[schwza]

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jj would be close. i'd probably call.

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Care to explain your reasoning?

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my mistake - i meant push.