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12-15-2005, 09:19 AM
Again, sorry no exact hand history.
Early-mid tournie. I have about 1600 chips. BB is 100. No reads.
Dealt 89c BB. EP (2500 or so) raises to 200. LP (2000 or so) calls. I call. Flop comes 23c + 9. I check aiming to raise, possibly all in, depending on the action. EP raises to 400. LP calls.

It's a fold, right? (not that I did, i had fallen in love with the hand, wasn't paying full attention to the fact that there were two callers and donked it all in)

However, up to that point, should I have done anything differently?

Matador225
12-15-2005, 09:24 AM
I almost always would push here. A read on the LP caller would help a bit but with your stack and how much is in the pot you pretty much have to push.

Rickyroodido
12-15-2005, 09:49 AM
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Again, sorry no exact hand history.
Early-mid tournie. I have about 1600 chips. BB is 100. No reads.
Dealt 89c BB. EP (2500 or so) raises to 200. LP (2000 or so) calls. I call. Flop comes 23c + 9. I check aiming to raise, possibly all in, depending on the action. EP raises to 400. LP calls.

It's a fold, right? (not that I did, i had fallen in love with the hand, wasn't paying full attention to the fact that there were two callers and donked it all in)

However, up to that point, should I have done anything differently?

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Explain why you think its a fold? I like that situation so much I would push with deepstacks.

12-15-2005, 10:03 AM
It's a fold because I lost!
In hindsight, I reckoned that the raise and call meant that I was not getting the fold equity so I was looking for my two pair to hold up or to make my flush. The EP raise pre-flop and raise post-flop I read as an overpair and the call either overcards, the flush draw or trips but it's easy to say when you know that UTG has AA and LP had Q10c!
So you're happy with my play?
What about pushing first? The result is probably the same but...

MeanGreenTT
12-15-2005, 01:31 PM
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It's a fold because I lost!

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Even being the donkey luckbox in training that I am, I know this to be laughable....results have nothing to do with making the right move /images/graemlins/wink.gif

yvesaint
12-15-2005, 01:35 PM
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It's a fold because I lost!
In hindsight, I reckoned that the raise and call meant that I was not getting the fold equity so I was looking for my two pair to hold up or to make my flush. The EP raise pre-flop and raise post-flop I read as an overpair and the call either overcards, the flush draw or trips but it's easy to say when you know that UTG has AA and LP had Q10c!
So you're happy with my play?
What about pushing first? The result is probably the same but...

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1. what two pair? i thought board was 9x3c2c and youre holding 9c8c
2. youre ahead of overcards! youre even money w/overpair that doesnt have a club! youre 45/55 against one that does!
3. youre ahead of flush draws! and if theyre calling big check-raise all-ins with Q-high flush draws, thats good, the suck!
4. dont push first, you want chips!
5. dont be results oriented!