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deadmoney98

12-15-2005, 02:51 AM

Overbet into your donktastic opponents, rinse, repeat...
(Results in white)

HAND 1
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP2 ($55.77)
MP3 ($45.80)
CO ($45.15)
Button ($52.55)
SB ($49.50)
Hero ($121.70)
UTG ($49.70)
UTG+1 ($51.45)
MP1 ($8.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2.75) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO bets $2, Hero calls $2, UTG calls $2, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds.

Turn: ($8.75) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $3, Hero raises to $9, UTG calls $9, CO folds.

River: ($29.75) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $39, UTG calls $38.20 (All-In).

Final Pot: $106.95
 Villain doesn't show [ 9h, Jh ] a flush, ace high.


HAND 2
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP3 ($45.87)
CO ($47.80)
Button ($45.95)
SB ($9.66)
BB ($76.18)
Hero ($69.55)
UTG+1 ($56.45)
MP1 ($58.20)
MP2 ($9.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
Hero raises to $2, UTG+1 calls $2, 7 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $4, UTG+1 calls $4.

Turn: ($12.75) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $10, UTG+1 raises to $20, Hero raises to $55, UTG+1 calls $30.45 (All-In).

River: ($118.20) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $118.20
 Same Villain doesn't show [ Td, Ks ] two pairs, tens and sixes. 

HAND 3
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB ($56.42)
BB ($42.70)
UTG ($60.70)
UTG+1 ($58.30)
UTG+2 ($54.55)
Hero ($144.40)
MP2 ($51.50)
MP3 ($51.50)
CO ($47.10)
Button ($4.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
3 folds, Hero calls $0.50, 5 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.25) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB calls $2.

Turn: ($5.25) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB raises to $20, Hero raises to $60, BB calls $20.20 (All-In).

River: ($105.45) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $105.45
 Villain doesn't show [ Ac, 3c ] two pairs, aces and queens. 

HAND 4
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button ($29.25)
SB ($52.85)
BB ($62.50)
UTG ($50.40)
UTG+1 ($55.45)
Hero ($183.35)
MP2 ($50.75)
MP3 ($44)
CO ($8.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.50, 2 folds, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: ($2) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.9, MP3 calls $1.90, SB folds, BB folds.

River: ($5.80) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5, MP3 raises to $12, Hero raises to $40, MP3 calls $29.60 (All-In), Hero calls $1.60.

Final Pot: $89
 Villain doesn't show [ Ac, 2c ] a flush, ace high.

orange

12-15-2005, 02:55 AM

hand 1: lead the flop.

Hand 3: fold PF.

all others are fine.

leehrat

12-15-2005, 03:13 AM

lol hand 3 is friggin hilarious. the maniacfish is a nocturnal species that often emerges to "hunt" with alcohol as an accompaniment.

LetYouDown

12-15-2005, 03:40 AM

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lol hand 3 is friggin hilarious. the maniacfish is a nocturnal species that often emerges to "hunt" with alcohol as an accompaniment.

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What I find funny is that hand #2 and hand #4 are incredibly similar, just reversed. One hand he wins with the nut flush on a paired board, the other hand the guy is a donk because he got all in with the nut flush on a paired board. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

Hoopster81

12-15-2005, 04:05 AM

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hand 1: c/r the flop.

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leehrat

12-15-2005, 04:34 AM

yeah that's not really a great example of outplaying your opponents

leehrat

12-15-2005, 04:41 AM

i bet all in on the flop on this one in ep, converter didn't work right:

Party Poker (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
3 folds.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero calls 48.75 (All-In), CO folds.

Turn: 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot:

Results in white below: 
Hero has Qc Qd (full house, fives full of queens).
MP has 4c 4h (full house, fives full of fours).
Outcome: Hero wins .

12-15-2005, 09:28 AM

Hand one is ASKING for a tough turn decision.

zaphod

12-15-2005, 10:06 AM

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Hand one is ASKING for a tough turn decision.

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Yes with a family pot and a few opponents there are quite a few cards that does not look to good. You have to raise that flop, too many draws out there.

Andrew Fletcher

12-15-2005, 10:11 AM

I've been amazed at some of the plays at 10NL, but it's clear that these guys have no trouble playing 50NL-100NL. Sweet.

Isura

12-15-2005, 10:40 AM

Hand 1 is played like a donkey. I stopped reading after that.

beavens

12-15-2005, 10:48 AM

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Hand 1 is played like a donkey.

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agreed - and the sad thing is that this is a brag post.

Mercman572

12-15-2005, 12:16 PM

nice brag post: you misplayed most of these hands. Congrats.

4_2_it

12-15-2005, 12:36 PM

ARRGGGGHHHHH. My eyes!

At least your screen name appears to be correct.

deadmoney98

12-15-2005, 01:17 PM

You people are all so bitter. Don't hate.
I did not post any of these hands because I thought I played them well. In fact, I thought I made at least one mistake in all of them. The point was, despite my bad plays, my opponents miraculously managed to still find a way to play worse.

deadmoney98

12-15-2005, 01:26 PM

If I was to show a hand I thought I played well, I would show this one...

Villain was 58/10
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 ($60.60)
UTG+2 ($94.95)
MP1 ($54.75)
MP2 ($55)
MP3 ($33.24)
Hero ($58.85)
Button ($48.25)
SB ($20.50)
BB ($49.50)
UTG ($73.45)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
6 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, Button calls $1.75, 1 fold, BB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($5.50) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, Button calls $4, BB folds.

Turn: ($13.50) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($13.50) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $15, Hero calls $15.

Final Pot: $43.50
 Villain shows [ Tc, 9s ] a pair of aces.
Hero shows [ Jd, Jc ] two pairs, aces and jacks.
Hero wins $41.35 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and jacks. 

Now flame me for using the bet pot button or being a calling station or whatever...

tripp0807

12-15-2005, 01:31 PM

Hey everybody,

Once, I was in the big blind, and a shortstack pushed all-in ($7). It folded around to me. I called with pocket aces. He had A8 offsuit. The case A showed up on the turn!

Now THAT is how you make money at SSNL.

deadmoney98

12-15-2005, 01:32 PM

My OP was a semi-joke response to another thread in the forum about how to win at SSNL. The point was if you can ever make a hand better than one pair you can bet very aggressively and people will pay you off. I play stupid, crazy LAG style, but at full-ring SSNL you can win a decent amount just by nut-peddling if that is your thing.

4_2_it

12-15-2005, 01:38 PM

[ QUOTE ]
You people are all so bitter. Don't hate.
I did not post any of these hands because I thought I played them well. In fact, I thought I made at least one mistake in all of them. The point was, despite my bad plays, my opponents miraculously managed to still find a way to play worse.

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If you would have indicated that your post was tongue-in-cheek you could have avoided the onslaught. The danger is someone new to this forum might see your post and take it at face value since it purports that it is the way to make money at SSNL.

tripp0807

12-15-2005, 01:41 PM

That's funny because:

a) it sounds like a self-glorifying "look at me and my big hands and how well I played them" thread.

b) the way you played the first hand makes me picture you as a "learned from 'Live at the Bike' player."

c) if you're trying to show that you can win by "nutpeddling," you've done a poor job by posting a hand where you open limped with JTo, a marginal holding, out of position.

deadmoney98

12-15-2005, 01:52 PM

[ QUOTE ]
That's funny because:

a) it sounds like a self-glorifying "look at me and my big hands and how well I played them" thread.

b) the way you played the first hand makes me picture you as a "learned from 'Live at the Bike' player."

c) if you're trying to show that you can win by "nutpeddling," you've done a poor job by posting a hand where you open limped with JTo, a marginal holding, out of position.

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a) ok, i probably should have explained myself the first time around, but I really don't understand the fascination with attacking people on this forum. If you can't say anything nice, at least says something constructive

b) I don't know what that means, but I would argue that in some respects I play to the level of my competition. I can make plays that clearly indicate I have a big hand and still get paid off at NL50, so I don't see why that should change

c) First, read the whole damn sentence. Second, there are a lot worse things than limping JTo when I have 300bb in my stack. (Like calling off all your money with TPBK with four cards to a straight on the board)

Once again I make the point that I am not good at poker, just that my opponents are significantly worse, which allows me to be a winning player.

Mercman572

12-15-2005, 02:29 PM

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Once again I make the point that I am not good at poker, just that my opponents are significantly worse, which allows me to be a winning player.

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Nice table selection /images/graemlins/tongue.gif! You got attacked becuase no one appreciates posts that that exude superiority and extreme confidence aimed at "teaching people" that are strategically or fundamentally incorrect- and thus are potentially destructive to the boards. That is because they
1: detract from serious posts where people want help
2: may mislead newcomers into doing the wrong things.

We don't receive these things positively because well, they're not welcome. The exception is if you have idiosyncracy credits due to heavily contributing in the past. I still don't think this really had any real constructive value to anyone on this board.

beavens

12-15-2005, 02:32 PM

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Once again I make the point that I am not good at poker, just that my opponents are significantly worse, which allows me to be a winning player.

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Nice table selection /images/graemlins/tongue.gif! You got attacked becuase no one appreciates posts that that exude superiority and extreme confidence aimed at "teaching people" that are strategically or fundamentally incorrect- and thus are potentially destructive to the boards. That is because they
1: detract from serious posts where people want help
2: may mislead newcomers into doing the wrong things.

We don't receive these things positively because well, they're not welcome. The exception is if you have idiosyncracy credits due to heavily contributing in the past. I still don't think this really had any real constructive value to anyone on this board.

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there's always the bad beats, brags & variance forum!!

worst subforum ever - unless they are moderating it now.

wdeadwyler

12-15-2005, 03:22 PM

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If I was to show a hand I thought I played well, I would show this one...

Villain was 58/10
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 ($60.60)
UTG+2 ($94.95)
MP1 ($54.75)
MP2 ($55)
MP3 ($33.24)
Hero ($58.85)
Button ($48.25)
SB ($20.50)
BB ($49.50)
UTG ($73.45)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
6 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, Button calls $1.75, 1 fold, BB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($5.50) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, Button calls $4, BB folds.

Turn: ($13.50) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($13.50) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $15, Hero calls $15.

Final Pot: $43.50
 Villain shows [ Tc, 9s ] a pair of aces.
Hero shows [ Jd, Jc ] two pairs, aces and jacks.
Hero wins $41.35 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and jacks. 

Now flame me for using the bet pot button or being a calling station or whatever...

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Vilain's line is REALLY fishy. I think 0% at your level of villains check behind there with an Ace w/out the boat. If he had a queen he would bet less on river. Looks either like a boat or air to me, and actually not a horrible river call.

wdeadwyler

12-15-2005, 03:24 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
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Once again I make the point that I am not good at poker, just that my opponents are significantly worse, which allows me to be a winning player.

[/ QUOTE ]

Nice table selection /images/graemlins/tongue.gif! You got attacked becuase no one appreciates posts that that exude superiority and extreme confidence aimed at "teaching people" that are strategically or fundamentally incorrect- and thus are potentially destructive to the boards. That is because they
1: detract from serious posts where people want help
2: may mislead newcomers into doing the wrong things.

We don't receive these things positively because well, they're not welcome. The exception is if you have idiosyncracy credits due to heavily contributing in the past. I still don't think this really had any real constructive value to anyone on this board.

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there's always the bad beats, brags & variance forum!!

worst subforum ever - unless they are moderating it now.

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Actually, its the best forum ever.

beavens

12-15-2005, 03:47 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
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Once again I make the point that I am not good at poker, just that my opponents are significantly worse, which allows me to be a winning player.

[/ QUOTE ]

Nice table selection /images/graemlins/tongue.gif! You got attacked becuase no one appreciates posts that that exude superiority and extreme confidence aimed at "teaching people" that are strategically or fundamentally incorrect- and thus are potentially destructive to the boards. That is because they
1: detract from serious posts where people want help
2: may mislead newcomers into doing the wrong things.

We don't receive these things positively because well, they're not welcome. The exception is if you have idiosyncracy credits due to heavily contributing in the past. I still don't think this really had any real constructive value to anyone on this board.

[/ QUOTE ]

there's always the bad beats, brags & variance forum!!

worst subforum ever - unless they are moderating it now.

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Actually, its the best forum ever.

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explain.