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12-15-2005, 01:42 AM
10th hand in a $50 tournament just now. I have no information on my opponents. This hand i pick up QQ in middle position. utg bets 95, i raise to 300, player right after me goes all in for 1465, utg quickly calls!! Was i right to fold? Especially considering not knowing anything about the table?

SixFootEight is at seat 0 with 1325.
Neill543 is at seat 1 with 1875.
Airness23 is at seat 2 with 310.
ststephen99 is at seat 3 with 1600.
Cali_Doc is at seat 4 with 4465.
bone777 is at seat 5 with 1490.
lip77 is at seat 6 with 1020.
tandyoo8 is at seat 7 with 1465.
Texas Troll is at seat 8 with 1485.
mikeroels is at seat 9 with 1465.
The button is at seat 4.

bone777 posts the small blind of 5.
lip77 posts the big blind of 10.

mikeroels: Qd Qh

Pre-flop:

tandyoo8 raises to 95. Texas Troll folds. mikeroels
re-raises to 300. SixFootEight goes all-in for 1325.
Neill543 folds. Airness23 folds. ststephen99
folds. Cali_Doc folds. bone777 folds. lip77
folds. tandyoo8 goes all-in for 1465. mikeroels
folds. tandyoo8 is returned 140 (uncalled).

Results in white.
<font color="white"> Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

SixFootEight shows Ad Kh.
tandyoo8 shows Jd Js.


River (board: 6c Td 4d 5c Qc):
</font>

reecelights
12-15-2005, 02:30 AM
Unless you have better reads and can put both of your opponents on AK/AQ/AJ/AT or smaller PP hands, I think this is an OK fold. If both opponents have unpaired Aces you are a favorite as their As reduce the number of outs.

It's early, you have plenty of time to catch another big hand.

nath
12-15-2005, 03:36 AM
It's hard to say. Sometimes you see the AK/JJ, sometimes you see the KK/AA. I tend to call because I'm always looking to gamboooool.

schwza
12-15-2005, 11:45 AM
ugh. it's pretty close. you're not that far off from having odds to call if they do have AA and JJ. but i think one of them has AA/KK a lot more often than neither does, so i think the fold is good.

by my rough math you have to win ~25%, and if there's an overpair out you're ~17%, if not then you're ~50%. so you need to see no overpair 1/3 as often than yes overpair ([25-17] * 3 ~= 50-25). i think you'll see an overpair at least 5x as often as no overpair.