Bottom 2 pair facing 2 raises

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***** Hand History for Game 3197997673 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:18262638 Level:5 Blinds (50/100) - Wednesday, December 14, 00:59:04 EDT 2005
Table 3 - Table(543650) Table #2 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 3: gokingsgo_25 ( $1000 )
Seat 4: GLG1954 ( $1205 )
Seat 5: Napstars ( $2305 )
Seat 6: grizwald05 ( $1978 )
Seat 9: Hero ( $845 )
Seat 2: deivysboro ( $1262 )
Seat 7: sliprylizard ( $3025 )
Seat 8: Guru0001 ( $2225 )
Trny:18262638 Level:5
Blinds (50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 3/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif ]
deivysboro calls [100].
gokingsgo_25 folds.
GLG1954 folds.
Napstars folds.
grizwald05 folds.
sliprylizard folds.
Guru0001 calls [50].
Hero checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif ]
Guru0001 bets [100].
Hero calls [100].
deivysboro raises [300].
Guru0001 is all-In [2025]
Hero ?

Why not push after the SB leads for 100? There is 400 in the pot and you only have 745 in your stack. I don't think this is a good spot to slow play bottom 2, esp against 2 opponents and a flush draw on the board.

[suckbot]

I won a hand in similar situation. Fairly early in the tourney, got a cheap BB flop and hit bottom two pair. Long story short, got two callers all-in, one with flush draw one with straight draw and took them both out.

Personally, I think it's worth the risk to double/triple up against draws early in the tourney.

[ThrillFactor]

Given that your stack is on life support, can you really fold 2 pair on a draw-happy board like this?

[HeroInBlack]

You're way too short to be choosy. I say go with it. You could be drawing dead, but more likely you have at least 4 outs, and there's a decent chance you have the best hand already.

impossible to be drawing dead at this street, but point taken (nearly drawing dead)

vs QQ who has a higher set. = drawing dead... or runner runner 4 or runner runner 9 .... almost drawing dead.

EZ call, I would have re-raised to 400 with a plan to go all-in on the turn.

Why not push, because you want action (I would want action)

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vs QQ who has a higher set. = drawing dead

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wrong. you are discounting the fact that hero can hit quads. this is not drawing dead.

[tripp0807]

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vs QQ who has a higher set. = drawing dead... or runner runner 4 or runner runner 9 .... almost drawing dead.

EZ call, I would have re-raised to 400 with a plan to go all-in on the turn.

Why not push, because you want action (I would want action)

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wrong. you are discounting the fact that hero can hit quads. this is not drawing dead.

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I'm not sure I know what either of you are talking about...look at how the hand went - a preflop limp with pocket Q's?

What's the point of betting 400? to leave yourself with nothing?

OP: Shove it in.

This is admittedly a tough hand to play on level one when you have plenty of chips. It's an easy all-in here though.

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vs QQ who has a higher set. = drawing dead... or runner runner 4 or runner runner 9 .... almost drawing dead.

EZ call, I would have re-raised to 400 with a plan to go all-in on the turn.

Why not push, because you want action (I would want action)

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wrong. you are discounting the fact that hero can hit quads. this is not drawing dead.

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I'm not sure I know what either of you are talking about...look at how the hand went - a preflop limp with pocket Q's?

What's the point of betting 400? to leave yourself with nothing?

OP: Shove it in.

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actually, i wasn't commenting on the hand, i was commenting on his remark that OP could be drawing dead and that it was physically impossible to be drawing dead with that flop and his 2 pair.

as far as the hand goes, I call the allin with my shorty stack whether I am way behind or not. 2 pair is just 2 hard to pass up. If i were deep stacked and had to risk elimination, I would not go to war with bottom 2 pair unless I had a darn good read.

With your stack just shove it in and hope your up against two flush draws or top pair and a flush draw.