Moses early-level postflop hand

[ilya]

...Just kidding!

Ok this hand is an old argument but I don't like this fold in a thousand-chipper.


Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: pavel73 ( $985 )
Seat 2: mosesiswet ( $975 )
Seat 3: poong_un_ah ( $1065 )
Seat 4: jennshurwill ( $1040 )
Seat 5: VcH1610 ( $1000 )
Seat 6: POKERPOLITI ( $1000 )
Seat 7: IMSweetMarie ( $970 )
Seat 8: glimeslime ( $1000 )
Seat 9: Trinita79 ( $990 )
Seat 10: olkku ( $975 )

Level:1
Blinds(10/15)

Dealt to mosesiswet [ 7s 8s ]

VcH1610 folds.
POKERPOLITI folds.
IMSweetMarie folds.
glimeslime calls [15].
Trinita79 calls [15].
olkku folds.
pavel73 folds.
mosesiswet folds...[8s 7s] on the button after 2 limpers.

[Femto]

lol... made me chuckle.

[curtains]

I usually fold this, but sometimes call if I feel like gambling /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ilya]

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I usually fold this, but sometimes call if I feel like gambling /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Curtains, you're so adventurous! /images/graemlins/blush.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[SuitedSixes]

What kind of a flop are we hoping for here?

[Custer]

I think these hands have very marginal +EV. But only if they're played very well post flop. When you are playing many tables (and often doing other stuff as well), you have to manage your mental resources. Spending a lot mental energy trying to squeeze a gnat's hair of EV out of these types of hands seems like a bad idea to me. But if you're only playing 1 table I would definitely call here.

moses

[ilya]

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What kind of a flop are we hoping for here?

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What are you implying, that you just don't play SCs ever?

[SuitedSixes]

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What kind of a flop are we hoping for here?

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What are you implying, that you just don't play SCs ever?

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I play AKs all the time.

What level is this?

Calling is decent.

[ilya]

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What kind of a flop are we hoping for here?

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What are you implying, that you just don't play SCs ever?

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I play AKs all the time.

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You really don't play 87s on the button ever? Not even in a cash game or a multi?

[Maulik]

suited connects are sooo much find in 6-max games they cost you I mean win you sooo much money.

[Irieguy]

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What kind of a flop are we hoping for here?

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What are you implying, that you just don't play SCs ever?

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I play AKs all the time.

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You really don't play 87s on the button ever? Not even in a cash game or a multi?

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This isn't a cash game or multi, it's a SNG.

Fold then yawn. Even if I feel like gambling I pick a more interesting spot than this.

Irieguy

[SuitedSixes]

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What kind of a flop are we hoping for here?

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What are you implying, that you just don't play SCs ever?

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I play AKs all the time.

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You really don't play 87s on the button ever? Not even in a cash game or a multi?

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In cash games and multis, yes. The last thing I want to do early in a SNG is draw. If the hand had some high value (JTs, QJs, KQs) I would probably call.

Just out of curiosity, what about hands like KT, or AT or QT, suited or non suited. Same with JT QJ KQ off suite.

[curtains]

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Just out of curiosity, what about hands like KT, or AT or QT, suited or non suited. Same with JT QJ KQ off suite.

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I never call any of them except for MAYBE KQo (but I usually fold). Not that this is the right way to play, but its how I play.

how long do you play this way for. What if the kind of hands you would call never come, and even if they do you miss.

I am not being critizing, i am just wondering because I only call premium hands, but sometimes i go poor late in game.

[SuitedSixes]

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Just out of curiosity, what about hands like KT, or AT or QT, suited or non suited. Same with JT QJ KQ off suite.

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KQ is the only one of those I normally play.

[tigerite]

I think if there are 4 limpers here instead of 2, 87s becomes much more playable.

[DeathbySuckout]

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how long do you play this way for. What if the kind of hands you would call never come, and even if they do you miss.

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If you never see AA, KK, AK or a set to win you chips in the first three levels, then you still have enough chips to compete and start building in level 4........unless you are calling every JT, QJ & KQ that you come across.

Edited to say this is the case in most of the SNGs that I play. Honestly, I would rather my premium hands came later in the game.

[Mvcode3]

I'll call A-Ts with limpers in the first two levels. Ill play 87s with 4 limpers in the co or later. Neither of these hands can stand a raise