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Crimson
12-13-2005, 07:00 AM
This is a list of all the countries where someone was sentanced to death in 2004. Discuss

AFGHANISTAN, ALGERIA, BAHAMAS, BANGLADESH, BARBADOS, BELARUS, BELIZE, BRUNEI DARUSSALAM, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHINA, CONGO (Democratic Republic), EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GUATEMALA, GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, IRAQ, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KENYA, KOREA (NORTH), KOREA (SOUTH), KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LIBYA, MALAYSIA, MOROCCO, NIGERIA, OMAN, PAKISTAN, PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, PAPUA NEW GUINEA, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RWANDA, SAUDI ARABIA, SENEGAL, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA, SRI LANKA, SUDAN, SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO, UGANDA, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM, YEMEN, ZIMBABWE

Richard Tanner
12-13-2005, 07:03 AM
But where are all the "enlightened" countries liek Russia, France, Germany, etc., I mean shouldn't they be...oh my.

Cody

Crimson
12-13-2005, 07:06 AM
I just copied and pasted the list off a quick google search, but something I watched on the Colber Report made me laugh and think of it. The list could be incomlete/wrong, but i'm pretty sure the US is the only western nation with the death penalty.

PoBoy321
12-13-2005, 07:08 AM
I'm not sure about the only Western nation, but only industrialized nation. Of course, everyone else is just a liberal pussy.

Richard Tanner
12-13-2005, 07:08 AM
Yep sounds about right, but it's kinda our culture. Right, wrong, or indifferent, it's really who we are, or at least where we came from.

Cody

ChipWrecked
12-13-2005, 08:22 AM
You don't [censored] around in Singapore, jack.

etgryphon
12-13-2005, 09:54 AM
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I'm not sure about the only Western nation, but only industrialized nation. Of course, everyone else is just a liberal pussy.

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So Singapore, Japan and South Korea aren't industrialized? Look at the list again...

I'm not opposed nor for death penalty really which is a bit of a shift. I used to be very for the death penalty. Now, with the way that it is doled out seems inconsistent with a deterent effect. The fact that Tookie William can live on Death Row for 25 years is amazing to me.

-Gryph

PoBoy321
12-13-2005, 09:58 AM
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I'm not sure about the only Western nation, but only industrialized nation. Of course, everyone else is just a liberal pussy.

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So Singapore, Japan and South Korea aren't industrialized? Look at the list again...

I'm not opposed nor for death penalty really which is a bit of a shift. I used to be very for the death penalty. Now, with the way that it is doled out seems inconsistent with a deterent effect. The fact that Tookie William can live on Death Row for 25 years is amazing to me.

-Gryph

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My mistake. I had thought that no industrialized nations had the death penalty. Maybe I meant industrialized Western nations. I'm not sure, I've been awake for way too long.

Also, the death penalty has never had a deterrent effect, of that I'm sure.

ChipWrecked
12-13-2005, 10:01 AM
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The fact that Tookie William can live on Death Row for 25 years is amazing to me.

-Gryph

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California has far and away the highest death row population, because it actually executes very few.

Check Texas or Florida for the fast track.

HesseJam
12-15-2005, 07:29 AM
Some interesting facts:

In the past five years, the United States has executed 13 juvenile offenders. Eight of these executions took place in the state of Texas. The rest of the world combined carried out five such executions. The United States accounts for four of the last five known juvenile offender executions in the last two years.

HesseJam
12-15-2005, 07:31 AM
The U.S. is a member of an interesting club:

The United States, China, Iran and Saudi Arabia account for over 80% of the executions recorded by Amnesty International.

Since 2000, only four countries --the U.S., the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Pakistan and Iran-- are known to have executed juvenile offenders. Further narrowing this list, Pakistan recently abolished the death penalty for juvenile offenders and the DRC has established a moratorium on executions.

HesseJam
12-15-2005, 07:38 AM
But the U.S. has still a long way to the top....

The prospects are good that the U.S. will top Afghanistan next year! US citizens are clearly missing out on the fun and the state governments should take fine nations like those below as an example how to restore effectively law and order.

Executions per capita:
#1 Bahamas, The 6.62712 executions per 1 million
#2 Singapore 6.32625 executions per 1 million
#3 Sierra Leone 4.09068 executions per 1 million
#4 Belarus 3.20388 executions per 1 million
#5 Rwanda 2.84327 executions per 1 million
#6 Kuwait 2.56849 executions per 1 million
#7 Oman 1.99867 executions per 1 million
#8 Congo, Democratic Republic of the 1.64571 executions per 1 million
#9 Jordan 1.5625 executions per 1 million
#10 Taiwan 1.39775 executions per 1 million
#11 Saudi Arabia 1.09774 executions per 1 million
#12 Iran 0.970331 executions per 1 million
#13 Yemen 0.820186 executions per 1 million
#14 China 0.816802 executions per 1 million
#15 Kyrgyzstan 0.777303 executions per 1 million
#16 Egypt 0.619307 executions per 1 million
#17 Lebanon 0.522739 executions per 1 million
#18 Cuba 0.440645 executions per 1 million
#19 Afghanistan 0.334124 executions per 1 million
#20 United States 0.229936 executions per 1 million
#21 Vietnam 0.215476 executions per 1 million
#22 Zimbabwe 0.16446 executions per 1 million
#23 Guatemala 0.0832362 executions per 1 million
#24 Syria 0.0542035 executions per 1 million
#25 Japan 0.0470895 executions per 1 million
#26 Nigeria 0.0465962 executions per 1 million
#27 Sudan 0.0248837 executions per 1 million
#28 Pakistan 0.0246275 executions per 1 million
#29 Thailand 0.0155797 executions per 1 million
#30 Ethiopia 0.0136887 executions per 1 million
#31 Uzbekistan 0 executions per 1 million
#32 Iraq 0 executions per 1 million
#33 Somalia 0 executions per 1 million

tripp0807
12-15-2005, 11:17 AM
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The U.S. is a member of an interesting club:

The United States, China, Iran and Saudi Arabia account for over 80% of the executions recorded by Amnesty International.

Since 2000, only four countries --the U.S., the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Pakistan and Iran-- are known to have executed juvenile offenders. Further narrowing this list, Pakistan recently abolished the death penalty for juvenile offenders and the DRC has established a moratorium on executions.

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OK...now further narrow that list because the United States no longer executes juvenilles.

12-15-2005, 03:46 PM
... polls consistently show that when asked the question, "Do you favor the death penalty for murder?", between 60 and 75% of Americans say Yes, with polling data dating back decades.

As somebody else noted, the death penalty is here to stay, it is part of our culture, and it doesn't bother most of us. As far as I'm concerned, the only legitimate debate over the death penalty should be gas or firing squad.

12-15-2005, 06:52 PM
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... polls consistently show that when asked the question, "Do you favor the death penalty for murder?", between 60 and 75% of Americans say Yes, with polling data dating back decades.

As somebody else noted, the death penalty is here to stay, it is part of our culture, and it doesn't bother most of us.

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Oh, I don't know. The nubmers are about the same for abortion. The majority are pro-choice.

What the majority wants doesn't matter. Public opinion can be changed.

12-15-2005, 07:04 PM
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... polls consistently show that when asked the question, "Do you favor the death penalty for murder?", between 60 and 75% of Americans say Yes, with polling data dating back decades.

As somebody else noted, the death penalty is here to stay, it is part of our culture, and it doesn't bother most of us.

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Oh, I don't know. The nubmers are about the same for abortion. The majority are pro-choice.

What the majority wants doesn't matter. Public opinion can be changed.

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A prohibition on capital punishment is like gay marriage--an idea whose time will never come in America.

coffeecrazy1
12-15-2005, 07:06 PM
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... polls consistently show that when asked the question, "Do you favor the death penalty for murder?", between 60 and 75% of Americans say Yes, with polling data dating back decades.

As somebody else noted, the death penalty is here to stay, it is part of our culture, and it doesn't bother most of us.

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Oh, I don't know. The nubmers are about the same for abortion. The majority are pro-choice.

What the majority wants doesn't matter. Public opinion can be changed.

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A prohibition on capital punishment is like gay marriage--an idea whose time will never come in America.

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I dunno...the government couldn't just seize your house before...and now we have Kelo to contend with.

tylerdurden
12-15-2005, 07:19 PM
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the government couldn't just seize your house before...and now we have Kelo to contend with.

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They couldn't?

Borodog
12-15-2005, 07:23 PM
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the government couldn't just seize your house before...and now we have Kelo to contend with.

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They couldn't?

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Last time I checked the American government has been seizing people's houses since the American Revolution.

BCPVP
12-15-2005, 07:53 PM
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... polls consistently show that when asked the question, "Do you favor the death penalty for murder?", between 60 and 75% of Americans say Yes, with polling data dating back decades.

As somebody else noted, the death penalty is here to stay, it is part of our culture, and it doesn't bother most of us.

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Oh, I don't know. The nubmers are about the same for abortion. The majority are pro-choice.

What the majority wants doesn't matter. Public opinion can be changed.

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A prohibition on capital punishment is like gay marriage--an idea whose time will never come in America.

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I dunno...the government couldn't just seize your house before...and now we have Kelo to contend with.

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Emminent domain's in the constitution, dude.

OtisTheMarsupial
12-17-2005, 07:42 PM
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A prohibition on capital punishment is like gay marriage--an idea whose time will never come in America.

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Heh, I think this was sarcastic.
Gay marriage will surely be legal in America some day.
Surely.