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jetsonsdogcanfly

12-13-2005, 03:23 AM

How terriblly did i butcher this?

button is loose, not good. CO has been relatively aggressive against me today, although we don't have a substantial history or anything.

Party Poker 50/100 Hold'em (10 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Button raises, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (13.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets

flawless_victory

12-13-2005, 03:27 AM

im sure this is a joke, but im not sure i get it... hmmm.

newhizzle

12-13-2005, 03:29 AM

i think both guys are folding here just about never, what kind of hand are you trying to represent?

jetsonsdogcanfly

12-13-2005, 03:45 AM

I hadn't been really out of line, and figured my cold call followed by a bet might look scary and get CO to muck overcards. I didn't have a chance to think about the Button before my hand clicked bet. I certainly didn't post the hand because I felt good about it...

ike

12-13-2005, 04:14 AM

12-13-2005, 05:40 AM

He's representing a slow-played flush.

This hand makes no sense. A-K is the only hand you aren't beating against which a bluff might be successful, while you'll just lose another bet to all the others. Check-fold.

chaosuk

12-13-2005, 10:52 AM

Ignore the trolls: I've made worse plays.

There are perhaps some game-dymanics that make this play work, but they aren't are going to be rare.

I'm sure you know this play is wrong, I suspect you want to know why. I'd label your decision here a 'pattern fold'. In other words, I don't pay attention to the pot - in fact I generally try to avoid doing so (often to my detriment). I suspect, judging by your inclusion of the pot size at each street, you've thought 'I've only got to be right 1 in 14(say)'. Suddenly the bet looks a whole lot more attractive, where it looked positively repulsive upon inspection of the hand. It's a bad bet, of that I'm sure, but it highlights the struggle I find when I mix playing by patterns, with playing by pots: they are two very different languages.

chaos

12-13-2005, 11:18 AM

Just check & fold the river.

jetsonsdogcanfly

12-13-2005, 05:12 PM

Yeah I definitely fold this river 100% of the time. The donk was a combination misclick/$100 joke i was telling myself/subconcious sadistic thought that it well confuse the hell out of those two.

jetsonsdogcanfly

12-13-2005, 05:16 PM

yeah I really don't know how I bet the river, I certainly didn't think it was going to win me the pot. CO folded, BU called, and MHIG. So there's the punchline I guess.

wdcbooks

12-13-2005, 07:05 PM

Let me be the first to ask. Your hand was good? What did he call with?

jetsonsdogcanfly

12-14-2005, 01:34 AM

KhJc. I know some people won't find this very interesting, but I still get a kick out of weird hands like that. It also reminded me of elindauers thread about the fundamental value of having the initative, and why people are sooo reluctant to fold to donked bets.

jayheaps

12-14-2005, 09:57 AM

did you think Kings and queens were clean outs on the river?