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KramerTM
12-13-2005, 12:36 AM
So I was thinking... since leap year is actually just humans way of admitting, "Hey look... we screwed up. We miscalculated how long a second should be so that 31536000 of them equal the amount of time it takes for the Earth to do a full revolution around the sun," I have a proposal. Instead of adding a full 24 hours every four years, could we instead just have 6 hours of "non-existent" free time at the end of every year? Yeah, I know, it would screw up night and day, but that can easily be recalibrated at the start of the next year.
Think about it, 6 full hours of no-consequence life. Who else thinks this is a fine alternative?
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So I was thinking... since leap year is actually just humans way of admitting, "Hey look... we screwed up. We miscalculated how long a second should be so that 31536000 of them equal the amount of time it takes for the Earth to do a full revolution around the sun," I have a proposal. Instead of adding a full 24 hours every four years, could we instead just have 6 hours of "non-existent" free time at the end of every year? Yeah, I know, it would screw up night and day, but that can easily be recalibrated at the start of the next year.
Think about it, 6 full hours of no-consequence life. Who else thinks this is a fine alternative?
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Uh, why go through the hassle? Seems like the system works ok now.
KramerTM
12-13-2005, 12:41 AM
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Uh, why go through the hassle? Seems like the system works ok now.
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Maybe you didn't hear me...
6 hours of consequence-free time!
Seriously though, when we finally communicate with life on other planets, it will be pretty embarrassing to explain to them our system, IMO.
tonypaladino
12-13-2005, 12:43 AM
some societies had extra days on the end of the year where they just had huge feasts and stuff. We should do something like that
Harv72b
12-13-2005, 12:43 AM
There's no such thing as no-consequence. And the consequences of such a thing existing are terrifying.
KramerTM
12-13-2005, 12:43 AM
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some societies had extra days on the end of the year where they just had huge feasts and stuff. We should do something like that
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Now there's a man who is embracing his free time.
WackityWhiz
12-13-2005, 12:45 AM
What do you mean by consequence-free time? Because that doesn't sound to appealing if you take it to be 100% literal. I don't want people robbing and trying to kill me for 6 hrs...
If you mean 6 hrs of just no work and all play, then I still think it's retarded /images/graemlins/grin.gif
** until tony talked about food
I'm ALL FOR IT!!!! w0000000000t bring on tha steaks
Dynasty
12-13-2005, 12:55 AM
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We miscalculated how long a second should be so that 31536000 of them equal the amount of time it takes for the Earth to do a full revolution around the sun...
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No such miscalculation was made.
KramerTM
12-13-2005, 12:56 AM
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We miscalculated how long a second should be so that 31536000 of them equal the amount of time it takes for the Earth to do a full revolution around the sun...
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No such miscalculation was made.
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Don't be a tease. Go on...
The Goober
12-13-2005, 01:04 AM
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We miscalculated how long a second should be so that 31536000 of them equal the amount of time it takes for the Earth to do a full revolution around the sun...
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No such miscalculation was made.
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Don't be a tease. Go on...
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Leap years aren't caused by any miscalculation, it's just because of the fact that the amount of time it takes the earth to orbit the sun is not an even multiple of the amount of time it takes the earth to spin on its own axis.
I'm with tony here. What a waste to take this extra day and tack it onto the end of a dinky little month during the winter and pretend like nothing happened. We should take the extra day and make it a total party day. Don't even give it a weekday name (so it would go monday, tuesday, super-special-party-day, wednesday,...), make it illegal to for any non-essential businesses to be open, and everyone would just go nuts for 24 lost hours.
bobbyi
12-13-2005, 01:06 AM
The amount of time it takes the earth revolve around the sun ("a year") ain't divisible by the time it takes earth to rotate on its axis ("a day"). How is that our fault? Where did we mess? Leap years seem like a good solution to that problem.
pointless piece of trivia, there will be a leap second at the end of this month
Let's all get drunk and play pingpong!!!!!!
jason_t
12-13-2005, 01:37 AM
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since leap year is actually just humans way of admitting, "Hey look... we screwed up. We miscalculated how long a second should be so that 31536000 of them equal the amount of time it takes for the Earth to do a full revolution around the sun,"
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It wasn't a miscalculation. It stemmed from the belief that astronomical events are regular. Historically the second was defined as follows. One day is divided into 24 units called hours. One hour is divided into 60 units called minutes. One minute is divided into 60 units called seconds. The 24 comes from the Egyptians and the use of 60 comes from the Babylonians which used a base-60 system (technically it's mixed-radix base 6 and base 10). The problem is that the Earth's rotation around its own axis is not uniform so defining seconds in terms of said rotation is bad. That's why time is now defined using a more regular natural event (the amount of time it takes for a certain number of periods of transitions between two hyperfine energy states in a certain cesium isotope under certain conditions.)
Blarg
12-13-2005, 02:09 AM
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We miscalculated how long a second should be so that 31536000 of them equal the amount of time it takes for the Earth to do a full revolution around the sun...
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No such miscalculation was made.
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Don't be a tease. Go on...
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Leap years aren't caused by any miscalculation, it's just because of the fact that the amount of time it takes the earth to orbit the sun is not an even multiple of the amount of time it takes the earth to spin on its own axis.
I'm with tony here. What a waste to take this extra day and tack it onto the end of a dinky little month during the winter and pretend like nothing happened. We should take the extra day and make it a total party day. Don't even give it a weekday name (so it would go monday, tuesday, super-special-party-day, wednesday,...), make it illegal to for any non-essential businesses to be open, and everyone would just go nuts for 24 lost hours.
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Let's make that day Work for Free for the Emperor day!
PoBoy321
12-13-2005, 02:12 AM
You mean kinda like that episode of Pete and Pete where they took that extra hour during the switch to daylight savings time to redo something they regretted during the past year?
OtisTheMarsupial
12-13-2005, 02:53 AM
No, I like leap year. It's funny when someone is born on leap day or when something extraordinary happens that day. It's fun.
andyfox
12-13-2005, 03:06 AM
I understood that there was a proposal to redo our calendars that has the approval of quite a few countries.
Each quarter of the year would have 91 days:
January 31
February 30
March 30
April 31
May 30
June 30
July 31
August 30
September 30
October 31
November 30
December 30
Each year, after December 30, there would be an extra day, with no date and no "day" (i.e., it would not be a Monday or any other day). It would be "World Peace Day" or something like that. Every fourth year, there would be two such days.
Each quarter would have the same number of days. And since each year would have 364 dated days, every same date every year would fall on the same day of the week, since 364 is a multiple of 7. Thus, for example, if we made January 1 a Sunday, it would be a Sunday every year. And each quarter would start on a Sunday too, since 91 is also a multiple of 7.
gmrankin
12-13-2005, 03:09 AM
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since leap year is actually just humans way of admitting, "Hey look... we screwed up. We miscalculated how long a second should be so that 31536000 of them equal the amount of time it takes for the Earth to do a full revolution around the sun,"
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It wasn't a miscalculation. It stemmed from the belief that astronomical events are regular. Historically the second was defined as follows. One day is divided into 24 units called hours. One hour is divided into 60 units called minutes. One minute is divided into 60 units called seconds. The 24 comes from the Egyptians and the use of 60 comes from the Babylonians which used a base-60 system (technically it's mixed-radix base 6 and base 10). The problem is that the Earth's rotation around its own axis is not uniform so defining seconds in terms of said rotation is bad. That's why time is now defined using a more regular natural event (the amount of time it takes for a certain number of periods of transitions between two hyperfine energy states in a certain cesium isotope under certain conditions.)
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not sure where you got your day theory...
here is why the day is 24 hours... that is the solar day. its what we set our watch to, 24 hours. but the sidearal day is more accurate. but it would f*** us all up if we used it. same concept for the year.
The length of time which passes between a given "fixed" star in the sky crossing a given projected meridian (line of longitude). The sidereal day is 23 h 56 m 4.1 s, slightly shorter than the solar day because the Earth 's orbital motion about the Sun means the Earth has to rotate slightly more than one turn with respect to the "fixed" stars in order to reach the same Earth-Sun orientation.
Unoriginalname
12-13-2005, 03:12 AM
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So I was thinking... since leap year is actually just humans way of admitting, "Hey look... we screwed up. We miscalculated how long a second should be so that 31536000 of them equal the amount of time it takes for the Earth to do a full revolution around the sun," I have a proposal. Instead of adding a full 24 hours every four years, could we instead just have 6 hours of "non-existent" free time at the end of every year? Yeah, I know, it would screw up night and day, but that can easily be recalibrated at the start of the next year.
Think about it, 6 full hours of no-consequence life. Who else thinks this is a fine alternative?
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You know it's funny, I just had this great idea the other day too. You see, you have this mat, with different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO.
TTChamp
12-13-2005, 03:30 AM
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I understood that there was a proposal to redo our calendars that has the approval of quite a few countries.
Each quarter of the year would have 91 days:
January 31
February 30
March 30
April 31
May 30
June 30
July 31
August 30
September 30
October 31
November 30
December 30
Each year, after December 30, there would be an extra day, with no date and no "day" (i.e., it would not be a Monday or any other day). It would be "World Peace Day" or something like that. Every fourth year, there would be two such days.
Each quarter would have the same number of days. And since each year would have 364 dated days, every same date every year would fall on the same day of the week, since 364 is a multiple of 7. Thus, for example, if we made January 1 a Sunday, it would be a Sunday every year. And each quarter would start on a Sunday too, since 91 is also a multiple of 7.
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This is awesome. Why don't we do this? Why would anyone oppose this? Banks maybe because there would be on less day of business????
Kramer would hear this and just start doing it.
Blarg
12-13-2005, 03:42 AM
I grinned.
Brainwalter
12-13-2005, 04:53 AM
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I understood that there was a proposal to redo our calendars that has the approval of quite a few countries.
Each quarter of the year would have 91 days:
January 31
February 30
March 30
April 31
May 30
June 30
July 31
August 30
September 30
October 31
November 30
December 30
Each year, after December 30, there would be an extra day, with no date and no "day" (i.e., it would not be a Monday or any other day). It would be "World Peace Day" or something like that. Every fourth year, there would be two such days.
Each quarter would have the same number of days. And since each year would have 364 dated days, every same date every year would fall on the same day of the week, since 364 is a multiple of 7. Thus, for example, if we made January 1 a Sunday, it would be a Sunday every year. And each quarter would start on a Sunday too, since 91 is also a multiple of 7.
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This is awesome. Why don't we do this? Why would anyone oppose this? Banks maybe because there would be on less day of business????
Kramer would hear this and just start doing it.
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I oppose this. I think it's good that birthdays, christmas etc. fall on different days of the week every year. It's confusing but at least you don't end up with some people having weekend birthdays while others are stuck on Tuesday.
Also, the people born on March, May, August, and December 31 would never get another birthday if this idea was adopted.
If you were born on world peace day you could get a prize or something. Maybe some coupons.
SammyKid11
12-13-2005, 07:37 AM
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You know it's funny, I just had this great idea the other day too. You see, you have this mat, with different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO.
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I laughed loudly and woke my girlfriend.
diebitter
12-13-2005, 07:42 AM
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So I was thinking... since leap year is actually just humans way of admitting, "Hey look... we screwed up. We miscalculated how long a second should be so that 31536000 of them equal the amount of time it takes for the Earth to do a full revolution around the sun," I have a proposal. Instead of adding a full 24 hours every four years, could we instead just have 6 hours of "non-existent" free time at the end of every year? Yeah, I know, it would screw up night and day, but that can easily be recalibrated at the start of the next year.
Think about it, 6 full hours of no-consequence life. Who else thinks this is a fine alternative?
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I love the idea of the first day being we set our clocks at midnight when it is effectively 6 in the morning... run a year like that, then the next year your midday become the middle of the night etc etc
Hahahaha!
You didn't think this through, did you?
ChipWrecked
12-13-2005, 07:46 AM
QR: My [censored] boss would still call me in to work.
tonypaladino
12-13-2005, 08:12 AM
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If you were born on world peace day you could get a prize or something. Maybe some coupons.
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i laughed
Alobar
12-13-2005, 11:18 AM
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I understood that there was a proposal to redo our calendars that has the approval of quite a few countries.
Each quarter of the year would have 91 days:
January 31
February 30
March 30
April 31
May 30
June 30
July 31
August 30
September 30
October 31
November 30
December 30
Each year, after December 30, there would be an extra day, with no date and no "day" (i.e., it would not be a Monday or any other day). It would be "World Peace Day" or something like that. Every fourth year, there would be two such days.
Each quarter would have the same number of days. And since each year would have 364 dated days, every same date every year would fall on the same day of the week, since 364 is a multiple of 7. Thus, for example, if we made January 1 a Sunday, it would be a Sunday every year. And each quarter would start on a Sunday too, since 91 is also a multiple of 7.
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woa woa woa...that sounds like pinko commie talk!!!
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