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jedi
12-12-2005, 09:43 PM
What do you think are the biggest disappointments after a good original film?

Just a sample in no particular order, I'm sure there are more that you can think of, or movies that I've missed completely.

miajag81
12-12-2005, 09:44 PM
I haven't seen ALL of these, but I don't see how Batman & Robin could possibly lose.

diebitter
12-12-2005, 09:45 PM
Highlander 2 has a -1 on my rating system. And this is where I can't think of another single film that gets 0 (not even from this list!)

Hamish McBagpipe
12-12-2005, 09:47 PM
Where's Breakin' 2, Electric Boogaloo?

4_2_it
12-12-2005, 09:48 PM
The Whole Ten Yards isn't much worse than The Whole Nine Yards.

surfinillini
12-12-2005, 09:50 PM
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The Whole Ten Yards isn't much worse than The Whole Nine Yards.

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ding ding ding

same could be said for Iron Eagle I vs Iron Eagle II

JcTc
12-12-2005, 09:52 PM
Dumb and Dumberer!!!

Blarg
12-12-2005, 09:54 PM
The original third Star Wars, the one after The Empire Strikes Back, pretty much killed off my love for Star Wars forever. The light cycles looked fake even at the time, and the Ewoks were truly off the charts crass manipulative uber-saccharine cutesiness meant primarily as an extended toy commercial. True junk filmmaking.

MelchyBeau
12-12-2005, 09:54 PM
jctc, dumb and dumberer couldn't be on this, because the OP assumes that you would expect it to be a good movie

Melch

KingCon
12-12-2005, 09:54 PM
People go see Caddyshack 2. Seeing Dan akyroyds pathetic Bill Murray clone will make you see the clear winner fo this poll

12-12-2005, 09:54 PM
What, no porn sequels?

JcTc
12-12-2005, 09:56 PM
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jctc, dumb and dumberer couldn't be on this, because the OP assumes that you would expect it to be a good movie

Melch

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haha, good point, i did expect to at least laugh once during the movie though, and that didn't happen

Aloysius
12-12-2005, 09:56 PM
I'd have to define "worst sequel" as differential between the original and the follow-up, as opposed to "absolute worst". For example I don't care how bad Men in Black II is (although it totally sucked) because I had no expectations going in and didn't particularly enjoy Men in Black I.

Based on that - Godfather III and it's not close.

For absolute worst on this list - from what I've seen probably Batman Forever - what a piece of [censored].

-Al

Alobar
12-12-2005, 09:57 PM
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I haven't seen ALL of these, but I don't see how Batman & Robin could possibly lose.

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because star wars ep 1 was the biggest dissapointment in the history of movies. Not only did we wait years and years for it to come out, but the original 3 movies were flat out amazing.

sure batman and robin was a worse movie than ep 1, but the original batman was mediocre at best, and no one camped out in line for months before hand to see its long anticipated sequal

diebitter
12-12-2005, 09:59 PM
I'm really jealous of all you guys. You've never endured Highlander 2. Obviously.

OnlinePokerCoach
12-12-2005, 10:00 PM
I really thought Rocky 5 could not lose and am surprised that I am the only one that picked it. Rocky 1 is one of the best movies--I still cry at the end. 2 3 and 4 are less and less real but still interesting. 5 is just terrible, no matter how you might try to find good in it.

surfinillini
12-12-2005, 10:01 PM
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I'm really jealous of all you guys. You've never endured Highlander 2. Obviously.

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I have not, but Highlander was great.

"What, are you a faggot Nash"

Aloysius
12-12-2005, 10:02 PM
DB - is Highlander 2 like "so bad it's funny", or "just terrible and painful to watch?" Never seen it and I really liked Highlander.

-Al

diebitter
12-12-2005, 10:02 PM
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I really thought Rocky 5 could not lose and am surprised that I am the only one that picked it. Rocky 1 is one of the best movies--I still cry at the end. 2 3 and 4 are less and less real but still interesting. 5 is just terrible, no matter how you might try to find good in it.

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There's gold in every one of the first 4 IMHO, but 5 is pants.

My favourite is Rocky 4 myself, as it's really just the best bits - training, and fighting... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Blarg
12-12-2005, 10:04 PM
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I haven't seen ALL of these, but I don't see how Batman & Robin could possibly lose.

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because star wars ep 1 was the biggest dissapointment in the history of movies. Not only did we wait years and years for it to come out, but the original 3 movies were flat out amazing.


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Hardly.

diebitter
12-12-2005, 10:10 PM
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DB - is Highlander 2 like "so bad it's funny", or "just terrible and painful to watch?" Never seen it and I really liked Highlander.

-Al

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It's so bad, it ruins the first one. I'm not kidding.

Which is why I really, really, really hate it, cos Highlander kicks ass bettrn Chuck Norris, and that's going some!

Just move on to Highlander 3 (which is distinctly average but not bum-sweatingly awful), and don't look at the road crash.

Blarg
12-12-2005, 10:13 PM
Actually Chuck Norris seems precisely the level of star perfect for that material.

LOL I'm making enemies today.

diebitter
12-12-2005, 10:14 PM
Get a fkn avatar, hippy! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Dudd
12-12-2005, 10:15 PM
After a great movie like The Matrix, how come the absolutely terrible sequels aren't getting more hate? I was so looking forward to those movies, and they absolutely sucked. Also, I agree with Rocky 5, what a let down after Drago in Russia.

Blarg
12-12-2005, 10:19 PM
I thought the first one was a revelation and the last one revealed I'd been hoodwinked.

Seriously, it's hard to imagine any movie could do so much to destroy forever the overall rep of a series. Even Godfather III didn't have nearly the negative impact. I think the Matrix series will always be remembered as something that failed spectacularly and squandered an unbelievable amount of public goodwill. Occasionally as something brilliant that failed, but people will mostly forget the brilliant because it's so tainted by the ending.

And the one in the middle wasn't that hot either.

12-12-2005, 10:20 PM
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Where's Breakin' 2, Electric Boogaloo?

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how dare you, sir. who didn't like Hot Shots 2 or Naked Gun 33 1/3?

surfinillini
12-12-2005, 10:20 PM
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After a great movie like The Matrix, how come the absolutely terrible sequels aren't getting more hate?

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thats what I voted for, it's always been my theory that THE MATRIX was never meant to have a sequel, but due to the massive success, the sequels were quickly ghostwritten/directed strictly from a money standpoint.

Matrix v. Matrix Reloaded/Rev is such a critical jump in tone, I just didn't see that possible.

Blarg
12-12-2005, 10:24 PM
It's amazing to me that the series could have devolved so far and become so damn bloated and pretentious, and finally even sentimental. What a waste.

Alobar
12-12-2005, 10:25 PM
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After a great movie like The Matrix, how come the absolutely terrible sequels aren't getting more hate?

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thats what I voted for, it's always been my theory that THE MATRIX was never meant to have a sequel, but due to the massive success, the sequels were quickly ghostwritten/directed strictly from a money standpoint.

Matrix v. Matrix Reloaded/Rev is such a critical jump in tone, I just didn't see that possible.

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I always had heard the 3 were written together.

I dont hate 2 and 3 as much as eveyone else, sure they wernt as good as the first one, but there werent all THAT horrible. Just another typical science fiction movie. They definately didnt ruin the first one for me.

diebitter
12-12-2005, 10:25 PM
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Where's Breakin' 2, Electric Boogaloo?

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how dare you, sir. who didn't like Hot Shots 2 or Naked Gun 33 1/3?

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Hot Shots part deux is great. I laugh my ass off when, at one point midbattle, Miguel Ferrer pops up, and with a huge cheesy grin, announces 'War! It's fantastic!'

surfinillini
12-12-2005, 10:27 PM
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After a great movie like The Matrix, how come the absolutely terrible sequels aren't getting more hate?

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thats what I voted for, it's always been my theory that THE MATRIX was never meant to have a sequel, but due to the massive success, the sequels were quickly ghostwritten/directed strictly from a money standpoint.

Matrix v. Matrix Reloaded/Rev is such a critical jump in tone, I just didn't see that possible.

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I always had heard the 3 were written together.

I dont hate 2 and 3 as much as eveyone else, sure they wernt as good as the first one, but there werent all THAT horrible. Just another typical science fiction movie. They definately didnt ruin the first one for me.

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The first one is just so different than the other two, the first was a good [censored] movie, how the jump could be so bad to such terrible flicks as the last two.

I still don't know...

astroglide
12-12-2005, 10:30 PM
it simply does not get any worse than highlander 2

Blarg
12-12-2005, 10:31 PM
The first one was really tight. The other two were really bloated, and not with anything good. You really, really feel the minutes in those.

surfinillini
12-12-2005, 10:34 PM
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The first one was really tight. The other two were really bloated, and not with anything good. You really, really feel the minutes in those.

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I think 2 and 3 could've been condensed into a super tight movie if they tightened up the dialogue and perfected a story line.

the final movie had no conflict resolution, total cock tease.

Alobar
12-12-2005, 10:38 PM
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The first one was really tight. The other two were really bloated, and not with anything good. You really, really feel the minutes in those.

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you didnt like any of 2? I thought the chase scene with the motorcycle was on par with anything in the first one.

Bigdaddydvo
12-12-2005, 10:46 PM
"Battlefield Earth II"

Wait, that's still in production.

surfinillini
12-12-2005, 10:48 PM
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The first one was really tight. The other two were really bloated, and not with anything good. You really, really feel the minutes in those.

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you didnt like any of 2? I thought the chase scene with the motorcycle was on par with anything in the first one.

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1st one was actually good stunts, 2nd and 3rd was all CGI, if I wanted to watch a cartoon I would've rented a videogame.

Blarg
12-12-2005, 10:52 PM
It went on a bit too long for me, and wasn't startling like things constantly were in the first one. It was also heavily CGI. And, frankly, I've seen chases done to death by now.

The first one was full of surprises. The other two pretty much had none, for me. They mostly just redid what we already had seen before, in the original or in other movies.

The thing I liked best about the other two were the Mechwarrior type battle mechs in III, how the swarms of bots looked breaking through that hole coming down into the underground chamber, the big overlord face in III, and parts of some of the fight scenes, mostly in II. Overall, they seemed to gorge on the parts of the first one that were most boring, cheesy and pretentious -- the oracle etc. And I'm afraid I never found the romance with Trinity very compelling or interesting.

Just opinions, but for me the sense of surprise and adventure existed almost entirely in the first one.

Blarg
12-12-2005, 10:53 PM
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"Battlefield Earth II"

Wait, that's still in production.

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Are you serious? Travolta wants to further savage his career by remaking a gigantic flop?

diebitter
12-12-2005, 10:55 PM
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"Battlefield Earth II"

Wait, that's still in production.

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Are you serious? Travolta wants to further savage his career by remaking a gigantic flop?

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SLAP! <Sound of hand hitting own forehead, amazed that someone actually believed the joke>

Blarg
12-12-2005, 10:57 PM
Sorry, I'm used to jokes being funny, so I get thrown a lot.

MonkeeMan
12-12-2005, 10:58 PM
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People go see Caddyshack 2. Seeing Dan akyroyds pathetic Bill Murray clone will make you see the clear winner fo this poll

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And talk about trading down, Jackie Mason vs. Rodney Dangerfield.

diebitter
12-12-2005, 11:02 PM
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Sorry, I'm used to jokes being funny, so I get thrown a lot.

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aww be nice. He was trying. I think there's a poll here. Something alone the lines of 'what sequel to-be-made would you most hate; Battlefield Earth 2, Citizen Kane 2, etc

meh, maybe not.

surfinillini
12-12-2005, 11:05 PM
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Sorry, I'm used to jokes being funny, so I get thrown a lot.

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aww be nice. He was trying. I think there's a poll here. Something alone the lines of 'what sequel to-be-made would you most hate; Battlefield Earth 2, Citizen Kane 2, etc

meh, maybe not.

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this is a bad poll, sequels can't be bad if the first movie sucked balls too.

Paluka
12-12-2005, 11:08 PM
No Fletch Lives option?

pudley4
12-12-2005, 11:10 PM
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it simply does not get any worse than highlander 2

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This is true, but last week I saw the "sequel" to A Christmas Story (it's called "It Runs in the Family"). Trainwreck. Utterly unfunny.

blendedsuit
12-12-2005, 11:11 PM
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I'd have to define "worst sequel" as differential between the original and the follow-up, as opposed to "absolute worst".

Based on that - Godfather III and it's not close.

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For absolute worst on this list - from what I've seen probably jurassic Park III, absolutely terrible.

jedi
12-12-2005, 11:16 PM
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No Fletch Lives option?

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Sorry. I haven't personally seen all of these myself, and based on some of the voting, that's a good thing. Obviously I couldn't include all bad sequels, but I might have made a mistake including crappy sequels of crappy movies.

12-12-2005, 11:30 PM
Add:

Jaws 3D
Meatballs II (as if the first one didn't suck)
Halloween III

Blarg
12-12-2005, 11:34 PM
The first Meatballs was great fun.

Halloween III was horrible.

12-12-2005, 11:43 PM
ooh, how about Christmas Vacation 2? I think it was titled "Cousin Eddie's Hawaiian Vacation" or something like that.

12-12-2005, 11:57 PM
OK, there is a huge difference between a sequel and a third movie in the line made only for money. Generally the sequel is made to follow up the second. If that somehow makes money they patchwork the third together hopin to score a few mil. I think there really should be a sequel poll and a horrible movie that was only made to cash in poll(KKIII, JPIII, Rocky V, Lethal Wepon III)

Generally the sequel will have the whole cast back and seem like they are having a good time even if the movie sucks(Oceans 12) The worthless third one has half the cast back and patchworks them in to make money(American Pie III)

Sponger15SB
12-13-2005, 12:14 AM
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Not only did we wait years and years for it to come out, but the original 3 movies were flat out amazing.

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NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDD

bort411
12-13-2005, 12:19 AM
American Psycho 2.

Sponger15SB
12-13-2005, 12:22 AM
Btw, The Whole Ten Yards was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. I watched it with like 8 people and halfway through you could barely hear the dialogue because we were ripping into it so much.

MyTurn2Raise
12-13-2005, 12:40 AM
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom

goddamn...that lady screaming was annoying.
Not even Short Round could save the movie
http://thecia.com.au/reviews/t/images/temple-of-doom-2.jpg

12-13-2005, 12:53 AM
Speaking of Chuck...

Delta Force 2
Missing in Action 3

Actually, I enjoyed these much more than Rocky V.

ScottieK

Niwa
12-13-2005, 12:56 AM
oh man there are alot of bad sequels.

Starship Troopers 2 sucked really bad.

EMcWilliams
12-13-2005, 01:36 AM
I really liked the 2 Matrix sequels, but I agree they werent as good at the first. Thew new Star Wars were not great, but not horrendous. Caddyshack II was absolutely horrible, B and R was the first movie I walked out on, highlander 2 made my cry in pain.

Dudd
12-13-2005, 01:51 AM
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oh man there are alot of bad sequels.

Starship Troopers 2 sucked really bad.

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If it went stright to video, it really shouldn't count for the purposes of this poll.

12-13-2005, 02:21 AM
Sequels almost always suck. I think a better poll would be to find out what the best sequel is. IMO it would go to Godfather 2.

jedi
12-13-2005, 03:06 AM
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Sequels almost always suck. I think a better poll would be to find out what the best sequel is. IMO it would go to Godfather 2.

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Well, you can start a new poll. Don't be surprised that I'm more partial to The Empire Strikes Back.

Blarg
12-13-2005, 03:35 AM
I'd pick Terminator 2 for best sequel. It was miles above the first one. Even people who think the Godfather 2 was better than the first Godfather would be off on Mars if they claimed there was a gaping difference in quality compared to the original.

12-13-2005, 03:46 AM
jurassic park 3 makes me cry

jedi
12-13-2005, 03:43 PM
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I haven't seen ALL of these, but I don't see how Batman & Robin could possibly lose.

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Well, as of right now, Oceans 12 is "beating" Batman & Robin, though that might be because it's the first on the list and we all gamble.

imported_The Vibesman
12-13-2005, 04:14 PM
I picked Major League II, Jaws: The Revenge and Caddyshack II.

Caddyshack II had been discussed.

Major League II; well, the first one wasn't the greatest movie in the world, but it was a likeable formula movie with likeable characters. The first thing that II does is to alienate the viewer from all these characters by making them annoying as all hell. Then, when we are supposed to go back, they never really do become likeable again.

Jaws: The Revenge...well, what can you say about a movie where a shark starts executing a personal vendetta against a specific human family unit? A movie where, in order to protect her family from a shark, a woman moves.

That's right, moves. Doesn't just tell the kids, "Hey, stay out of the water," which is a pretty good defense against your average fish. She moves. Naturally, the shark knows she has moved and actually beats her to the Bahamas. (Move to the Bahamas to protect against a fish...yeah, yeah, good.) This movie is so bad Richard Jeni has a bit in his stand up act where he just describes the plot of this movie, it's a hilarious 10 minute bit.

Ulysses
12-13-2005, 04:18 PM
All,

Highlander 2 is the correct answer.

nyc999
12-13-2005, 04:21 PM
Blues Brothers 2000

what were they thinking?

WDC
12-13-2005, 04:23 PM
I couldn't find Just Bring It Again so I voted for Godfather IIi just beacuse the first two were so good by comparison.

12-13-2005, 04:28 PM
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The Whole Ten Yards isn't much worse than The Whole Nine Yards.

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ding ding ding

same could be said for Iron Eagle I vs Iron Eagle II

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Are you fkign insane. IE I ruled. Kindly die.

12-13-2005, 05:00 PM
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Blues Brothers 2000

what were they thinking?

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Good call. I always knew John Goodman wished he was a real Blues Brother. He probably laid awake at night, just dreaming of being John Belushi. I can't believe Dan Aykroyd indulged him. The movie was crap (although I had a feeling any car could go underwater with Elwood behind the wheel.)

ScottieK

B Dids
12-13-2005, 05:13 PM
I have seen Highlander 3 (complete with "Dr. Feelgood guitar riff during fight scene!).

I have not seen Highlander's 1 and 2.

I don't know why.

I'm not sure if there's a movie worse than Batman and Robin on that list. I had to sit through that with my best friend and his girl and she forbade us to talk during the movie, which sucked because it was so horrible and we couldn't mock it at all.

She was a bad person and cheated on him and I think got into a car accident and it may have been deserved (she lived).

imported_The Vibesman
12-13-2005, 05:17 PM
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Blues Brothers 2000

what were they thinking?

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Good call. I always knew John Goodman wished he was a real Blues Brother. He probably laid awake at night, just dreaming of being John Belushi. I can't believe Dan Aykroyd indulged him. The movie was crap (although I had a feeling any car could go underwater with Elwood behind the wheel.)

ScottieK

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Like the first movie, Blues Brothers 2000 is really just a great excuse to get a bunch of great Blues and R+B artists together for some music. It's a crappy movie, but the performances are what you're there for.

Even the first one wasn't particularly funny. Some giggles and smirks, but not too many belly laughs. Great performances though.

12-13-2005, 05:49 PM
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Blues Brothers 2000

what were they thinking?

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Good call. I always knew John Goodman wished he was a real Blues Brother. He probably laid awake at night, just dreaming of being John Belushi. I can't believe Dan Aykroyd indulged him. The movie was crap (although I had a feeling any car could go underwater with Elwood behind the wheel.)

ScottieK

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Like the first movie, Blues Brothers 2000 is really just a great excuse to get a bunch of great Blues and R+B artists together for some music. It's a crappy movie, but the performances are what you're there for.

Even the first one wasn't particularly funny. Some giggles and smirks, but not too many belly laughs. Great performances though.

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Heresy! The original Blues Brothers was way way way better. Funny as hell. May be one of my top five comedies. The scene in Chez Paul - "sell me your children!" The car chase through the mall. The car chase at the end. The Nazis. Reverend Cleophus. Ray Charles shooting at a kid. Bob's Country Bunker. And Carrie Fisher sporting a blowtorch, rocket launcher, and an M-16. Hilarious. The second one was rehashed and flat...no comparison.

ScottieK

Mr_J
12-13-2005, 05:49 PM
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Lethal Wepon III, American Pie III

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Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom

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You both suck. All lethal weapons are awesome, all indy's are awesome, and american pie 3 was pretty damn funny, maybe even more than the others.

samjjones
12-13-2005, 05:52 PM
Wow. Lethal Weapon 4 was just wretched.

mrkilla
12-13-2005, 05:54 PM
Highlander II made 0 sense and screwed up the whole thing, I skip 2 and go right to 3

ptmusic
12-16-2005, 05:30 PM
Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey.

imported_The Vibesman
12-16-2005, 05:35 PM
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Heresy! The original Blues Brothers was way way way better. Funny as hell. May be one of my top five comedies. The scene in Chez Paul - "sell me your children!" The car chase through the mall. The car chase at the end. The Nazis. Reverend Cleophus. Ray Charles shooting at a kid. Bob's Country Bunker. And Carrie Fisher sporting a blowtorch, rocket launcher, and an M-16. Hilarious. The second one was rehashed and flat...no comparison.

ScottieK

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I know it's better. I'm just trying to make a point.

Maybe, also, the first one's a little dead because I've seen it so much.

The Chez Paul scene is one of the best ever.

"How much for the women? Your wife, the little girl...sell them to me!"

12-16-2005, 05:50 PM
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I couldn't find Just Bring It Again

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Is that a sequal to Bring It On or whatever those cheerleader movies were called?

Riverman
12-16-2005, 05:52 PM
speed 2

CrazyEyez
12-16-2005, 06:34 PM
How is Leonard Part 6 not on this list?

Duke
12-16-2005, 06:41 PM
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Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey.

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Joke?

~D

cdxx
12-16-2005, 07:41 PM
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"Battlefield Earth II"

Wait, that's still in production.

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did worst movie of all time ever get resolved? i only saw the Round of 4 thread, no final thread.

12-16-2005, 07:47 PM
How about every horror series ever? Leprechaun 2: Back in the hood? Every Childs play movie ever? Halloween H20? I just dont understand how sequels are made from such horrible first movies, yet they are still even worse.

siccjay
12-16-2005, 08:29 PM
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jctc, dumb and dumberer couldn't be on this, because the OP assumes that you would expect it to be a good movie

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haha, good point, i did expect to at least laugh once during the movie though, and that didn't happen

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You didn't laugh at Bob Saget yelling about [censored]? I sure did. There were a couple other mildly funny parts but not many.

whiskeytown
12-17-2005, 05:08 AM
I don't think ANYTHING matched the cool/suck ratio of Highlander and Highlander 2 -

Even the Director's cut couldn't save it - "You're a space alien and that's why you're invulunerable" became 'you're some powerful being from the future and that's why you're invulunerable"

ruined the Highlander franchise for me....until the TV series - that helped out a bit..

RB

diebitter
12-17-2005, 05:35 AM
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I don't think ANYTHING matched the cool/suck ratio of Highlander and Highlander 2

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No truer words exist.

Whoever greenlit that script needs a 'tookie' /images/graemlins/wink.gif

whiskeytown
12-17-2005, 05:43 AM
from the IMDB -

Director Russell Mulcahy disliked the theatrical cut so much, he left the premiere after only 15 minutes.

In the renegade version, a documentary following the film has the filmmakers explain why the original theatrical release contradicted the first film. According to them, the inflation in Argentina had risen so high during filming that the film's insurance company started to take creative control, and made a film they thought would make the most money.

All the subsequent Highlander productions ignore Highlander II, as if it never happened.

Russell Mulcahy was so frustrated at being locked out of production that he tried to have his credit changed to "Alan Smithee". However, a section of his contract forbade him from publicly attacking the film before it was released; the producers informed him that if he had his credit changed they would consider it an attack and launch a lawsuit against him.

Christopher Lambert was so disgusted with the re-written script that he wanted to drop out of production, but due to contractual obligation he was forced to finish the film.

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I KNEW it had to be the Insurance Company's fault - LOL...

RB

adsman
12-17-2005, 10:23 AM
yeah, highlander 2 wins.

But I have to say that I just saw Be Cool and that is complete sheeeiit. Get Shorty was a great film. How could they feck up an Elmore Leonard book? Just goes to show that even with a great cast it's not a sure thing if the director sucks big fat donkey balls.

12-17-2005, 04:32 PM
No Ghostbusters 2? Ghostbusters is a classic....2 is a steaming pile...

12-17-2005, 05:09 PM
I saw Highlander 2 on opening night, before anyone could warn me. To say I've been a whole man since that night would be false.

Gary

diebitter
12-17-2005, 05:37 PM
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I saw Highlander 2 on opening night, before anyone could warn me. To say I've been a whole man since that night would be false.

Gary

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Yeah, I've often wondered if it would be possible to identify which part of my brain holds the memory of Highlander 2, and how long it would take to save up to be able to get a brain sugeon to remove it.

I'd say for sheer detestation, bile, and psychological scarring, Highlander 2 is leading the field in this thread.

12-17-2005, 06:39 PM
Between Oceans 12, Rocky 5 and Speed 2, i chose Speed 2. only film I ever walked out on

Peter666
12-17-2005, 10:14 PM
This goes to "Texas Chainsaw Massacre II" the one made in the 80's with Dennis Hopper. This was the most repulsive sequel and probably movie in general I have ever seen, and not in a good, horror movie kind of way either.