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Bill Poker
12-12-2005, 05:56 PM
does a push here rish too much?

NL Texas Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Trny:18154632 Level:4
Blinds(50/100) - Saturday, December 10, 10:48:43 EDT 2005
Table Table 67991 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: CALLMEJUNIOR ( $550 )
Seat 2: leftman ( $2295 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $1645 )
Seat 4: jcsox ( $410 )
Seat 7: lpw1535 ( $2305 )
Seat 8: pandirector ( $900 )
Seat 10: golferdh1 ( $1895 )
Trny:18154632 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Td Tc ]
jcsox folds.
lpw1535 folds.
pandirector folds.
golferdh1 folds.
CALLMEJUNIOR folds.
leftman raises [150].
HERO ??

tigerite
12-12-2005, 05:57 PM
No. I'd almost certainly push here.

bigt439
12-12-2005, 06:52 PM
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No. I'd almost certainly push here.

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Paul Thomson
12-12-2005, 07:00 PM
I like a call here. If you push and are called than you are either behind or a coin flip. By playing the hand slower, he also gives his opponent more chances to make a mistake. TT is a good hand to play against a single opponent in position.

The main reason that I play it slow is that I'm in position and want to use it for effectiveness. I assume that Curtains is the better of the two poker players and should be using his post-flop skills. Even though a card higher than a Ten will fall on the flop more than 50% of the time, I'm not overly worried if an Ace doesn't fall. By playing the hand slower, he also gives his opponent more chances to make a mistake.

skipperbob
12-12-2005, 07:22 PM
The $150 move by SB is the same as a limp (please let me see a cheap flop - Please)...WE DON'T ALLOW LIMPING SB's...push

ace_in_the_hole
12-12-2005, 07:27 PM
I push, that raise looks like a "I want to take down the blinds while only risking minumum" I think calling is worse than folding.

12-12-2005, 07:31 PM
push.. you have no idea where you stand if you just call. opponent could be raising j5o, what are you going to do on a j43 flop?? will be very very hard to play post flop even for a good player.

12-12-2005, 07:33 PM
Blinds 50/100, villain raises to 150?

Anyway, TT = good hand, no extreme situations like raise+reraise or bubble with short stack... push.

Bill Poker
12-12-2005, 07:36 PM
do you guys change your mind if vallian raises to $300 (3BB) instead?

12-12-2005, 07:43 PM
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do you guys change your mind if vallian raises to $300 (3BB) instead?

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No. It's still a push.

Paul Thomson
12-12-2005, 07:47 PM
Quick question, do we have to put in another $150 in addition to our $100 BB. Or do we just put in another $50?

Bill Poker
12-12-2005, 07:50 PM
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Quick question, do we have to put in another $150 in addition to our $100 BB. Or do we just put in another $50?

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SB mini-raised to $200.

Custer
12-13-2005, 12:27 AM
Seems to me like I had 2 options. Call and give whatever pile SB just doubled the blind with a free flop, or raise to make him fold. I like raising. I don't think its close.

moses

bigt439
12-13-2005, 12:28 AM
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do you guys change your mind if vallian raises to $300 (3BB) instead?

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Let's put it this way: Once it gets to the sb, I'm never folding preflop.

player1
12-13-2005, 12:59 PM
how low do you go? what's the lowest pair you'd play? (99s?)

Postiga
12-13-2005, 01:05 PM
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Let's put it this way: Once it gets to the sb, I'm never folding preflop.

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schwza
12-13-2005, 01:25 PM
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No. I'd almost certainly push here.

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my first reaction was to call and play a flop in position with a better hand, but there's enough chips out there that pushing looks good. plus there's some chance you'll get looked up by a worse hand.

sofere
12-13-2005, 01:51 PM
Not to mention it will hopefully scare him off of minraise stealing. Easy push, two birds with one stone.

bigt439
12-13-2005, 02:40 PM
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how low do you go? what's the lowest pair you'd play? (99s?)

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I'd be pretty tempted with 22. I'd probably fold 66- to a flat out push... but if I think I have any FE at all I'm definitely pushing 22. It's a battle of the blinds baby.

liucipher
12-13-2005, 02:57 PM
Doesn't hero have 16xBB?

22+ . . .

You guys have guts. Must learn to have guts . . .

bigt439
12-13-2005, 03:03 PM
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Doesn't hero have 16xBB?

22+ . . .

You guys have guts. Must learn to have guts . . .

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Well yeah, but that's why it would be ridiculous for the sb to open push there... making 77 look like a good call.