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Bill Poker
12-12-2005, 05:19 PM
fold? raise? or push? is a fold too weak tight?

NL Texas Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Trny:18154129 Level:5
Blinds(75/150) - Saturday, December 10, 10:27:28 EDT 2005
Table Table 68279 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: Rondasue2 ( $2330 )
Seat 3: Strategen ( $817 )
Seat 4: Freeza ( $1011 )
Seat 5: scjeter ( $418 )
Seat 6: HERO ( $1660 )
Seat 7: cycubs ( $2155 )
Seat 9: kathy25 ( $1609 ) --->button
Trny:18154129 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6c 6s ]
Freeza folds.
scjeter folds.
HERO ??

schwza
12-12-2005, 05:34 PM
i would push, but it's close.

tigerite
12-12-2005, 05:53 PM
I think I generally would fold here.

pineapple888
12-12-2005, 06:16 PM
With 11BB and a middle-sized stack, I fold this from MP.

Matt R.
12-12-2005, 06:32 PM
Ehh... I hate these spots. I think I'd push here. Maybe make a ~t400 raise and fold to a push (except from BB of course). If the players after you are loose and aggressive I think folding is best. I'm interested to see what curtains did on this one.

Paul Thomson
12-12-2005, 06:51 PM
Given your stack size, I think you have to fold. It's hard to play this hand for anything other than a set. If it was 99+, I would make a raise and hope to steal the blinds.

bigt439
12-12-2005, 07:15 PM
Raise > Push > Fold > Limp

IMO

bigt439
12-12-2005, 07:16 PM
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I think I generally would fold here.

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Really eh? That surprises me.

Bill Poker
12-12-2005, 07:22 PM
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Raise > Push > Fold > Limp

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bet 1/4 of all your chips and fold to push??? does not seem to be a smart move.

12-12-2005, 07:31 PM
I fold because every other play sucks.

12-12-2005, 07:43 PM
Without some kind of read on the table I generally fold this in 55's and can't imagine the 200's are different enough to make folding wrong. It is kind of close though, I believe I would push 99 here, maybe 88 also. 66 though just doesn't seem like quite enough of a hand. With had a smallish stack I would push 66 but this stack is anything but smallish.

tigerite
12-12-2005, 09:54 PM
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I think I generally would fold here.

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Really eh? That surprises me.

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If I was one space nearer the blinds, I would probably raise. Or perhaps if the stack sizes weren't as they are (I'm especially looking at the button's and BB's).. I can't see anything good coming out of a raise here. And a push I believe is thin on the +$EV stakes if at all.. So, as Noah said, I fold because every other option seems to suck.

bigt439
12-12-2005, 11:09 PM
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I think I generally would fold here.

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Really eh? That surprises me.

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If I was one space nearer the blinds, I would probably raise. Or perhaps if the stack sizes weren't as they are (I'm especially looking at the button's and BB's).. I can't see anything good coming out of a raise here. And a push I believe is thin on the +$EV stakes if at all.. So, as Noah said, I fold because every other option seems to suck.

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Eh, yeah it is a pretty thin push. Basically neutral EV against reasonable ranges so I could see wanting to fold. I think raising is a reasonable play though. Make it 350 and you can fold to a push although folding is fine. I don't think it really matters much here.

Custer
12-13-2005, 12:50 AM
I think it takes very special circumstances to make pushing correct with a 10+BB relevant stack. Sometimes I raise to about 450 (425 - 475, where ever my clicker ends up /images/graemlins/smile.gif ), sometimes I fold. I don't know which is better.

moses

player1
12-13-2005, 12:55 PM
i usually raise to 400. is raising to 400ish bad because players tend to reraise all in?

schwza
12-13-2005, 02:13 PM
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i usually raise to 400. is raising to 400ish bad because players tend to reraise all in?

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the real problem is that when they do, you're likely to make a bad mistake, either by folding to AK or calling AA. also it's going to be difficult to play a flop profitably if someone calls.

bigt439
12-13-2005, 02:38 PM
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I think it takes very special circumstances to make pushing correct with a 10+BB relevant stack. Sometimes I raise to about 450 (425 - 475, where ever my clicker ends up /images/graemlins/smile.gif ), sometimes I fold. I don't know which is better.

moses

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350 saves a lot of chips.