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Akimka
12-12-2005, 04:03 PM
At first - reads:

BB is 33/12/1 - LAG but not overagressive
UTG+2 is 27/12/1.7 - TAG/LAG but loose one
MP1 is 47/15/2.3 - clear LAG
MP3 45/15, CO TAG

My reasoning in blue.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif. MP3 posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="blue"> What do we have? Big pot and if we count our hand as 5outer (too liberal?) we can call here, but raiser is agressive so we can think that he raise any 9 here for protection, he can raise Asxs here and lot of other hands like TT. But after us sitting a PR raiser - if he have overcards we can make him unprofitable fold and got a button. If we will get a cap from him that would mean that he have QQ-AA or AsKs (AsQs) for sure and we can play accordingly. And we in large pot so we must take all possibilities to win it. So...</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (13.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 folds.

<font color="blue"> Autobet... We calling c/r and fold river here or not - that's a question</font>

River: (15.25 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

<font color="blue"> Bet/call. Right? </font>

Final Pot: 17.25 BB

Thanks for your advises!
12-12-2005, 04:11 PM
What's your plan if the turn got donk bet or you got check-raised?
cassady
12-12-2005, 04:15 PM
THe only thing I'd change is your potential line on the turn of calling a check raise on the turn and folding unimproved. If UTG+2 check-raises the turn, given the limp PF he was either getting overagressive with his flush draw on the flop and hit it on the turn, or made trips on the flop and decided to stop and go you. Either way, you're drawing dead, so I'd fold the turn to a raise here.

Otherwise the hand is good. The most questionable play is the flop 3-bet, but I think it's worth it for hand protection.
Akimka
12-12-2005, 04:18 PM
After some discussion I came to desicion to fold turn to any agression - to donkbet and to c/r for sure - risk of flush &amp; over is too high. Is it good?