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[Mercman572]

$100NL 6max
First hand at the table, but I've been on the waiting list and had the table open for 30 or so hands. Table average is 40/15. Villain is SB and 55/33 after his 30 hands. 2 or 3 loose but semi aggressive players limp.

Villain ($55 Stack) makes it $7, I think and pump it up to $21 with AQs.

I thought about cold calling but thought there was too much of a chance someone else would call

My reasoning: There's $10 dead money and his raising range is very wide here: limped to SB is one of the most cmomon spots for a PF steal. Most hands he's raising with I'm either coinflipping or dominating. The 3 hands I'm afraid of are AK, AA or KK and his range is much wider than that.

Against a small PP I have plenty of fold equity. If he pushes, my PF raise prices me in nicely to take the probable coinflip.

[wdeadwyler]

I like it, but I find I get stop n go'd in this spot alot.

[djoyce003]

my only question. have you noticed this guy making plays from the SB? Even crazies sometimes tighten up considerably from the blinds. I think if you face a push at best you are a coinflip and at worst you are a huge dog. My .02.

[wdeadwyler]

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my only question. have you noticed this guy making plays from the SB? Even crazies sometimes tighten up considerably from the blinds. I think if you face a push at best you are a coinflip and at worst you are a huge dog. My .02.

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I never pull this against an unknown. It is usually against someone who I feel has been raising light. Against a TAG or unknown my default is to call.

[djoyce003]

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I never pull this against an unknown. It is usually against someone who I feel has been raising light. Against a TAG or unknown my default is to call.

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I'm right there with you.....I just don't think I make this play against someone raising from the blinds with only 30 hands to go by.

[Mercman572]

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I like it, but I find I get stop n go'd in this spot alot.

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That would suck

[Mercman572]

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my only question. have you noticed this guy making plays from the SB? Even crazies sometimes tighten up considerably from the blinds. I think if you face a push at best you are a coinflip and at worst you are a huge dog. My .02.

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I've paid limited attention. Just have noticed he's been raising alot. In my experience limp to a LAG blinds means he can't resist a steal. He pushed and we flipped (he ahd 77). Given his cards (and that's about what I put him on) I think I like my play since the raise likely has some fold equity, or it should.

I didn't mind calling expecting to Flip, its a call of about $35 in an $80 pot for me, if he ever folds this hand the play should be profitable.

[Mercman572]

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I never pull this against an unknown. It is usually against someone who I feel has been raising light. Against a TAG or unknown my default is to call.

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I'm right there with you.....I just don't think I make this play against someone raising from the blinds with only 30 hands to go by.

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Really, I thought this was raise or fold? I don't like calling for more than 10% of his stack hoping to hit one pair or push a draw. Plus if I call I might get overcalled and then be at a loss of a good move unless I hit a flop nice.

[djoyce003]

it's not so bad calling. You've got a strong hand and position on the raiser. If you get overcalled that's probably ok...you are most likely ahead of him unless he limp reraises. I'm just saying that i'm more cautious than normal of a person in the blinds raising...it generally means a strong hand. This guy had 77 so he's been watching too much WPT. In my experience the SB raising is typically a strong hand....i usually just complete with AK from the SB, or I make a large raise that some people might think is a steal but if he has AK here you are smoked and now the pot is huge....that's my point i guess.

[Mercman572]

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it's not so bad calling. You've got a strong hand and position on the raiser. If you get overcalled that's probably ok...you are most likely ahead of him unless he limp reraises.

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But when I whiff the flop I am screwed; a check is giving up the hand, I have to fold to villains c-bet, if checked to I risk getting called if I cbet myself. The times I check/fold this flop when I call are too great I think to call this.

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In my experience the SB raising is typically a strong hand....i usually just complete with AK from the SB, or I make a large raise that some people might think is a steal but if he has AK here you are smoked and now the pot is huge....that's my point i guess.

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I see what you're saying, but are your numbers 55/33? To me that clearly says caution in PFRing to this guy is moot.

[djoyce003]

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I see what you're saying, but are your numbers 55/33? To me that clearly says caution in PFRing to this guy is moot.

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My main point actually was that some maniacs tighten up from the blinds...some don't. I don't think we know enough after 30 hands to make an accurate judgement on which type of maniac this one is....so until I have that read, I'll take the more cautious route. There will be plenty of opportunities in the future. And no, my stats are not 55/33. I also think you don't need to fold to a continuation bet against this guy headsup...particularly if it's just headsup between the two of you.

[Guin]

I like your line because of the stats you have on the guy... the only thing I would check in those 30 hands is to see if he had to show AA, KK, QQ... which would justify some of the extra PFR%. Now if you have seen him showdown some junk then your play is perfect.... except that you should raise the amount of his stack. I find that you let the table know that you are taking care of the crazy guy!

Guin

[Mercman572]

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except that you should raise the amount of his stack. I find that you let the table know that you are taking care of the crazy guy! Guin

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The reason I didn't do this is in case someone else was planning on "taking care of the crazy guy" with AA or KK by limping. If I was called by another I might have to play a flop pretty tentatively.

[aces_dad]

I know 30 hands isn't many but 55/30 is more likely playing too many hands than getting A's/K's/Q's 10 times the last 30 hands.