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jason_t
12-12-2005, 06:54 AM
Villain is 51.25/12.19/1.48 after 279.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Preflop: I am SB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, I call.

Flop: (9 SB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">I bet</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, I call.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">I bet</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I 3-bet</font>, MP2 calls.

River: (12.50 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

hobbsmann
12-12-2005, 06:55 AM
bet for value as this guy probably caps TT+.

PokerBob
12-12-2005, 06:56 AM
Bet and call and rejoice in doing so. If he had KK and got there, good for him. I'm never stopping on the flop, by the way.

jason_t
12-12-2005, 06:57 AM
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bet for value as this guy probably caps TT+.

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But does he play them all like this postflop? Are you advocating bet/fold or bet/call?

jgorham
12-12-2005, 07:06 AM
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But does he play them all like this postflop? Are you advocating bet/fold or bet/call?

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This guy is overaggressive, and until you 3bet him on the turn you have under represented your hand. On the river his range still includs TT-QQ so you have to bet. If he raises, well it sucks, but I dont see any way you can fold hu for one bet against him, mostly because I don't really like doing that against loose aggressives. He will bluff enough to make bet/call the right river line imo.

hobbsmann
12-12-2005, 07:07 AM
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bet for value as this guy probably caps TT+.

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But does he play them all like this postflop? Are you advocating bet/fold or bet/call?

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Bet/call because people of his stat line do wierd [censored] on the river a lot. It is also possible he has been playing AK this way and thinks his hand is now good.

DMBFan23
12-12-2005, 09:16 AM
Process of elimination. Let's assume 99, 88, and 66 cap the turn.

we can't check fold because the pot is too big given his (narrow?) range.

betting loses 2 bets against KK (without a good enough read to fold to the raise) and wins 1 bet against QQ,JJ,TT.

check calling loses 1 bet against KK and might win 1 bet against QQ, but now we need to decide at which point he checks behind other overpairs, as our line was pretty strong and TT might not be looking so good to villain in position anymore. he has a decent agg. value, but do we know his river aggression, and how he value bets?

Anyways, I prefer betting just because the other options are worse. then I'm calling because (and I hate this excuse but it's been pretty solid for me) it's online and people do crazy [censored] when scary cards come

Chris Daddy Cool
12-12-2005, 10:51 AM
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Entity
12-12-2005, 01:18 PM
Bet-call mi amigo.

jason_t
12-12-2005, 03:43 PM
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Bet/call because people of his stat line do wierd [censored] on the river a lot. It is also possible he has been playing AK this way and thinks his hand is now good.

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Yeah, of course it's possible but is it likely?

Entity
12-12-2005, 03:56 PM
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Bet/call because people of his stat line do wierd [censored] on the river a lot. It is also possible he has been playing AK this way and thinks his hand is now good.

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Yeah, of course it's possible but is it likely?

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It doesn't need to be likely and you know that.

Rob

hobbsmann
12-13-2005, 12:37 AM
what entity said.