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jason_t
12-12-2005, 05:36 AM
UTG is 27.9/14.31/2.52 over 6436 and SB is 27.2/12.39/3.34 over 589. I /images/graemlins/heart.gif these aggressive games.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Preflop: I am MP2 with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, I call.

Flop: (13 SB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I 3-bet</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, I call, SB calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I raise</font>
hobbsmann
12-12-2005, 05:43 AM
I like calling a lot more as I'm sure we are ahead of UTG enough AND neither of these guys likely has more than 5 outs against you the times you are ahead.

I'm assuming you are calling down if 3-bet?
PokerBob
12-12-2005, 06:22 AM
sure. i am assuming you are folding to a SB check/3bet of course. but what if UTG comes back at you? call-down time?
PokerBob
12-12-2005, 06:24 AM
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I like calling a lot more as I'm sure we are ahead of UTG enough AND neither of these guys likely has more than 5 outs against you the times you are ahead.


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but SB will be getting over 14:1 to call. Even if he only has 3 outs he is getting close to the right price. Charge that [censored].
hobbsmann
12-12-2005, 06:35 AM
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I like calling a lot more as I'm sure we are ahead of UTG enough AND neither of these guys likely has more than 5 outs against you the times you are ahead.


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but SB will be getting over 14:1 to call. Even if he only has 3 outs he is getting close to the right price. Charge that [censored].

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In terms of hand combos sb has like 2.4 outs on average here (AK, QQ, TT maybe) or he has us crushed (JJ) and we will hear about that soon.

UTG is a little more worrisome, and I'm on the fence now about whether to raise this up for value against him, call/call, or calling and raising the river.