44 hand

[private joker]

This is a hand I played several days ago but it has been rattling around in my brain. It's possible I screwed up on more than one street here.

Very early on in a new live game (20/40 @ Hollywood Park), so reads are scarce.

An EP player limps, MP player raises. Folded to me in the BB with 44, I call.

Flop comes down 773r. I check, EP checks, MP bets, I raise, EP folds, MP 3-bets, I call.

Turn is a 2. Check, check.

River is 3. I bet for value...

[W. Deranged]

I like it... River bet is sexy.

[DeathDonkey]

Very standard but good bet.

-DeathDonkey

[private joker]

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Very standard

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You guys don't think the turn is a bet/fold? If I'm putting him on A-high, why let him draw to 6 outs? Or is the problem with this that I don't want to get raised off the best hand and that if he calls I'm lost on the river?

Also, what's my plan if I get raised on this river bet? Call? I think I have to because I can't see him checking the turn through with a better PP.

[mike l.]

the question is what you plan to do if he bets the turn.

[CardSharpCook]

You should bet either the river or the turn. Considering betting the turn might get him to fold 6 outs, I bet the turn, check the river.

[goofball]

I think you should be the turn. YOu prbably have the best hand, he'll probably call you with overcards, make him. If you bet the turn and he just called you could bet the river fro value anyway and that would be sexy as hell.

What's yoru read on him? People that 3bet the flop then check the turn OOP make me wary.

[onegymrat]

Hi Joker,

If he calls you, he has you beat with a pocket pair, so I hope he mucked.

I don't see him having just overcards with his flop 3-bet, he would have just called. He probably checked the turn weakly fearing a check-raise, and for some reason, he's not so afraid to give you a free river. If you check the river, he would bet and make a crying call if you check-raised. Expect to lose if he calls.

I would rather call for value here then bet. I mean, MP3 will call for value with 55-88 here, which seems like his possible holdings. He'll probably fold AK, AJ, AQ if you bet out. On the other hand, he may try to bluff with AK, AJ, AQ, sensing weakness on your behalf. I say check and call whatever he bets.

[CardSharpCook]

if this were a PP hand, you should bet this for value because aces call a lot. Live, you may be right, onegym.

Melan, hero is in position.

[private joker]

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Melan, hero is in position.

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No I'm not.

OGR -- I do think AK/AQ calls a lot on a board of 77332. Anytime a board is double paired with rags, A-high likes to see a showdown. It happens a lot even in live play, so while I wasn't rooting for a call, I wasn't too upset when he did call. I turned over my hand and he nodded and mucked.

[onegymrat]

My mistake, I didn't notice that the board double paired.

I need help.

[golferbrent]

I like the flop play, and I like the river play as well. Only other options are to donk the turn and/or check call the river to induce a bluff from ace high. It would depend on how that game normally plays. The lead on the end, does make it virtually impossible for him to raise you since the board repaired on the end. I like how you played it IMO.

[bobbyi]

Looks good

[NLfool]

value betting live is very different from value betting online from my experience. In general people are looser preflop but if they give you action postflop (not just calling) they've got a real hand. I don't see too many full ring turn CR with air Live but online I see it like every ten minutes.