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yvesaint
12-11-2005, 04:54 PM
stars 10+1 w/one rebuy, one add-on. 731 field, prize pool of about 16k. i think this is from like 35 people down, but i'm not sure. i also mark down the number of hands i fold inbetween the notable hands. thanks for any comments/critiques

tshoesgirl is very weak, will mini-raise with any 2 face cards, any ace, any pockets down to 44 (from what i've seen), and this push seemed like a no-brainer to me.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t3000 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t79690)
BB (t15060)
UTG (t47774)
UTG+1 (t17012)
MP1 (t18999)
MP2 (tshoesgirl) (t64688)
CO (t19495)
Hero (t35092)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 (tshoesgirl) raises to t6150</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t35092</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 (tshoesgirl) folds.

Final Pot: t42142

1 hand

tshoesgirls limp pre-flop seemed weak to me, like a mid-pocket trying to sneak in, definitely not AK/AQ. im most likely either ahead, or flipping, and i didnt want to just give this hand up - so i push.

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MP2 (t41200)
CO (t77890)
Button (t44474)
SB (t16712)
BB (t34659)
UTG (tshoesgirl) (t58388)
UTG+1 (t19195)
Hero (t46492)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG (tshoesgirl) calls t3000, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t46492</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG (tshoesgirl) folds.

Final Pot: t50542

9 hands

standard, right?

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UTG+1 (t87200)
MP1 (t83299)
MP2 (t6213)
CO (t17912)
Button (t24159)
SB (tshoesgirl) (t103931)
BB (t61196)
Hero (t49192)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t9150</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t10200

1 hand

blind battles are always real awkward to me. with antes, i raise 2.5xBB as a steal, planning to fold to a push, and check-fold if he calls? is this bad? no real reads on this guy, except he raised 4xBB UTG w/AA and busted QQ

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BB (t86900)
UTG (t82999)
UTG+1 (t5913)
MP1 (t17612)
MP2 (t23859)
CO (tshoesgirl) (t107831)
Button (t56396)
Hero (t51592)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t7650</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Final Pot: t8700

6 hands

i really felt like pushing here. 0120 was raising from any position with Ax. i just felt i didnt have any fold equity with my stack, even though i was most likely only a 40-60 dog. of course, he could have me dominated, or we could even be flipping.

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BB (t80550)
UTG (0120) (t75649)
MP1 (t19126)
MP2 (t33277)
CO (tshoesgirl) (t113612)
Button (t53046)
Hero (t57842)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG (0120) raises to t12200</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t13400

4 hands

bad, right? im probably only called here if im dominated/flipping, but the table was playing fairly weak, ESPECIALLY the short stacks, so i felt i could augment my stack by 10%+

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MP1 (t73550)
MP2 (0120) (t77449)
MP3 (t109463)
CO (t19526)
Button (t26277)
SB (t108523)
BB (tshoesgirl) (t129412)
UTG (t52046)
Hero (t54842)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t54842</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t56242

6 hands

folded to me with 55, yet my stack size makes this awkard. i raise, i fold to a push, big part of my stack is gone. i push, and im always a dog/flipping if i get called. good fold?

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MP2 (t73950)
MP3 (0120) (t77849)
CO (t102063)
Button (t19926)
SB (t20877)
BB (t122923)
UTG (tshoesgirl) (t126012)
UTG+1 (t52446)
Hero (t55042)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 (0120) raises to t12200</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t13800

4 hands

no-brainer button push, right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t66550)
BB (0120) (t84249)
UTG (t112063)
UTG+1 (t30226)
MP1 (t137923)
MP2 (tshoesgirl) (t115612)
CO (t42046)
Hero (t44642)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t44642</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t46742

6 hands

i felt kind of weird pushing my button the very next orbit, but the blinds were fairly tight w/calling standard, plus, my stack does threaten to cripple them

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t66550)
BB (0120) (t84249)
UTG (t153463)
UTG+1 (t18826)
MP1 (t149923)
MP2 (tshoesgirl) (t85012)
CO (t30646)
Hero (t44642)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t44642</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t46742

12 hands

new table, seems passive, from what i observed earlier, the big stack isnt aggro at all, but will raise w/position etc.

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MP2 (t294182)
CO (t281950)
Button (t43688)
SB (t44024)
BB (t72875)
UTG (t105950)
Hero (t55042)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t55042</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t57442

the very next hand, i get dealt KcTc UTG. this is probably real bad, right? i pick up a ton of chips w/this push, and i dont feel TOO bad if i get called, do i?

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MP1 (t293782)
MP2 (t281550)
CO (t43288)
Button (t39624)
SB (t64475)
BB (t105550)
Hero (t69442)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t69442</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t71842

5 hands

yes? no? this push seemed sort of automatic to me

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t8000 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

CO (t294582)
Button (t293750)
SB (t33288)
BB (t37624)
UTG (t58475)
MP1 (t109750)
Hero (t70242)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t70242</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t72642

1 hand

2nd time i pushed UTG at this table with a marginal holding. good chance i take the blinds, but i felt awkward doing this with an easily dominated hand, but the blinds are big and the antes add a lot to the pot.

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MP (t292950)
CO (t28488)
Button (t39224)
SB (t49675)
BB (t108950)
Hero (t84242)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t84242</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t86242

2 hands

SB is the big, passive stack, and BB was folding a lot for a short stack (wanted to squeeze up money spots).

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SB (t315550)
BB (t27088)
UTG (t37824)
MP (t44275)
CO (t95550)
Hero (t83242)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t83242</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t86242

4 hands

Button = big, passive stack from before, we just moved to 2 tables. stop and go seem better? he is raising a lot here, and this push felt bad, but its about 54k more for him to call into a 140k pot, wow, i just realized this is pretty bad ....good odds for him, etc. probably should have just let this one go?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t12000 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t170231)
UTG (t173605)
UTG+1 (t213982)
MP1 (0120) (t181298)
MP2 (t299941)
CO (t113206)
Button (t329950)
Hero (t90442)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t36000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t89842</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t53842.

Flop: (t183284) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t183284) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t183284) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t183284

elmitchbo
12-12-2005, 12:22 PM
looks good to me for the most part. i find a strange sense of tranquility in the pushbot mode. you make one decision and then watch calmly as the poker gods decide your fate. i enjoy it... but maybe that's just me...

on the AJs hand i think i would have made a normal raise and seen a flop. if you flop an Ace it might get tricky but a J high flop or a four flush might make you alot of money.

on the next hand i push the 5's as well. what happened with the 4's?

yvesaint
12-12-2005, 01:09 PM
on the AJs hand i felt really bad going in for a standard raise. 2.5xBB is already almost 20% of my stack.

i think the 5s is very marginal. if it was at least 99, id definitely be pushing, but 5s seems like a -cEV move to me, especially with an M~8

i was just wondering on the 4s whether a stop n go might have more fold equity, as this guy is probably raising any 2 face cards here, any ace, any pocket. he had KcJc and hit a nice river, but thats just being results oriented. i mean, he MIGHT be able to fold getting 2:1 on the flop if its horrible for him, but i also didn't want to drag BB into the pot.

thanks for the comments though, this part of the game when i dont actually get the big stack i want is always weird to me